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Old 08-24-2012, 11:01 AM
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I wish i had the technical know how to fix up cars and I certain do not think you are a moron. Far from it.
If i had the space, equipment and the know how... i would probably do the same thing.
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Old 08-24-2012, 11:11 AM
 
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Oh, and I done this same thing to over 12 cars in the last 30 years.

Someone tell me to not be a moron and just buy a new car or truck. What I do must be a mental problem.
Naaaahhhhh... What you're doing is both good for the pocketbook, and good for the soul.
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Old 08-24-2012, 11:18 AM
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I'll add a little to my OP.

I'm retired, so the time is not an issue.

What I do really enjoy is driving old car/truck that is running perfect (this is the reason I do this kinda stuff).
In that case I would have done the same thing. I like to turn wrenches, but in my current situation I'd trade up. I don't have the time and I like new(er) cars.
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Old 08-24-2012, 11:37 AM
 
Location: Londonderry, NH
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In addition to all of this stuff I recommend dropping the oil pan and checking bearing clearances in a center main and nearby rod bearing with some "plasti gauge" or something similar. Only remove the pistons if a bore is heavily scored but not just scratched by the rings. You can then take a green kitchen sponge with the cleaning mesh to create a new oil surface on the cylinders. This is optional. Then replace the end seals (does GM still use graphite rope?) and the pan gasket and button it up.

If I had the time I would have never given my '82 Toyota Corolla sedan away.
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Old 08-24-2012, 11:59 AM
 
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I'm currently working on my 200 thousand mile 98 Sonoma. I have the entire vehicle in pieces. It started when the 4.3 started leaking antifreeze from the intake manifold gasket. I got the intake manifold off and thought this would be a good time to replace the heater core, so I took the seats out and then the dash and then the heater box and then while I'm there I'll fix one of the heater valves that had stopped working years ago.

Now back to the engine, now that I have the heads off, I'll check all the valves and springs and then grind the valve seats. By the way all the parts that are coming off I'm glass beading and repainting. Then I thought. before I put it back together I'll replace the timing chain, and now that I have the timing chain off maybe I should put new rings and mains in and replace the starter and oil pump.

While I'm doing everything else I'm inspecting all the wiring and replacing sections where the insulation has burned off or was just cracking.

Anyway, a job that should have taken the weekend is now 3 weeks in and will probably take another 3 weeks. When I'm done the truck should have another trouble free 100 thousand miles.

Oh, and I done this same thing to over 12 cars in the last 30 years.

Someone tell me to not be a moron and just buy a new car or truck. What I do must be a mental problem.
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smart man! If you have the time, and the skills. There is no reason not to do ie
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The moron is the one who buys new when they have small mechanical problems.

I would suggest that you leave the bottom end of the engine alone, though, it probably does not need rings and bearings if you have kept it in good tune and with decent oil.

Something I would think about though, I would take a hard look at the exhaust valves, maybe replace them rather than grind them. I don't know that much about Hyundai engines, maybe they have good hard exhaust valves like Japanese and Euro cars do.
what these guys said. as long as the vehicle has value to you, then keeping it going is always worthwhile, whether you do the job yourself or pay someone to do it for you. too many people decide that just because their old car needs a new engine they dump it for a new car complete with a set of car payments for the next 60-84 months or so. and by the time they had paid off the car, they usually have put enough miles on it to require more work, so they start the cycle all over again.
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Old 08-25-2012, 11:12 AM
 
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Real mechanics have a plan BEFORE they start unbolting every bolt they have wrenches that fit. You somehow dont SOUND like a real mechanic. I think you are giving us BS
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Old 08-25-2012, 11:22 AM
 
Location: Nebraska
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Real mechanics have a plan BEFORE they start unbolting every bolt they have wrenches that fit. You somehow dont SOUND like a real mechanic. I think you are giving us BS
Describe what a real mechanic is????
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Old 08-25-2012, 11:40 AM
 
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[quote=Garthur;25800993]Describe what a real mechanic is????[/QUOTE l Let explain it better.." We have 2 types of mechanics in this world. We have those that fix things and then we have people that just make a mess" which are you?
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Old 08-25-2012, 12:20 PM
 
Location: Keosauqua, Iowa
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Describe what a real mechanic is????
Let explain it better.." We have 2 types of mechanics in this world. We have those that fix things and then we have people that just make a mess" which are you?
Sounds to me like Garthur is fixing several things. There's nothing in the original post to indicate that he's going to have any trouble putting things back together, it's just taking more time than he anticipated because he's decided to fix a few other things before he bolts it all back together and calls it good. Is he making a mess in the process? Sure he is. What does that have to do with anything?

I see nothing wrong with this behavior and tend to do the same thing myself.
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Old 08-25-2012, 12:40 PM
 
Location: Nebraska
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Describe what a real mechanic is????[/QUOTE l Let explain it better.." We have 2 types of mechanics in this world. We have those that fix things and then we have people that just make a mess" which are you?
I'm the type that rebuilds vehicles from the ground up. You have to define "mess" because yes I take everything apart and inspect each part and then replace suspect bad parts or parts that I expect to go bad. I have never failed to complete a job and end up with an excellent ride.

Your posts seam very defensive so I will make the assumption that you are in mechanics school or just getting out or have just started a job as a professional mechanic. A seasoned mechanic would never make the comments you did in your posts.

So if what you mean to say is that a real mechanic is a professional mechanic? I just had one of my cars to a professional mechanic that made a mess of it and I had to finish what he worked on. Or do you mean like the professional mechanic that replaced a fuel pump in one of my trucks and then said to come pick it up and when I got there it would not run. I told him to find out what was wrong and after 2 days he called me and said that it was just the wiring loom and that it was grounding out because of defective insulation to the fuel pump but I still had to pay for the fuel pump. Or do you mean the professional mechanic(s) that replaced all the injectors and then they said it was ready and I went to pick it up and the check engine light came on, I took it back 3 times before one of the 3 mechanics that worked on it could find the problem. BTW all of the mechanic were certified and worked at new car dealerships.

I will not continue with all the stories I have about pros. All the new mechanics hook up the computer and then just shotgun the problem. Old school mechanics, as an example if an alternator is bad they just don't replace the alternator, they take the alternator apart and replace the diodes, or the regulator or the bearings.

Sorry for being a little wordy.
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