Refrigerant death gas (2013, auto, leak, car)

[Pretzelogik]

VW joins Daimler's protest of new A/C refrigerant as EU deadline for compliance passes Several years ago DuPont's patent in Freon expired, and thru legislative lobbying/$$ contributions we got R134a. Now the patent on that stuff will expire soon and they are attempting to manipulate the system to give us R1234yf. Unfortunately the latter will be detrimental to human health during an auto crash or leak in the system. "Kinder to the environment" bravo sierra...it will be kinder to DuPont's bottom line profits.

[nick gar]

Wow, some folks are very defensive about R1234yf's flammability, yet wont give propane or ammonia refrigerants the time of day for mobile applications.

[mathjak107]

i almost killed myself a few decades ago looking for a refrigerant leak in a freezer case with the old haline torch.

i was laying in the case making phosgene gas unknowingly when the r12 hit the flame.

being heavier then air it over came me in the case and i started to pass out.

[AlfredB1979]

Originally Posted by mathjak107

i almost killed myself a few decades ago looking for a refrigerant leak in a freezer case with the old haline torch.

i was laying in the case making phosgene gas unknowingly when the r12 hit the flame.

being heavier then air it over came me in the case and i started to pass out.

What you don't know CAN hurt you, huh?

Anyway, I'm no organic chem major (did well in it, though), but don't set your car on fire and you won't have to deal with a fluorine exposure. That would suck.