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Belt driven automotive CVTs don't offer smooth ratio changes?
The few I've driven seem to, though I'm a poor judge from the driver's seat.
A Honda tech showed me a diagram of one, when I first became aware of Honda's offerings in the late 1990s. A steel belt, sliding over a cone-shaped drive. Looked "smooth-ratio" oriented to me.
Yeah, the contraption shown in that Youtube vid looks downright Rube Goldberg-esque in comparison. Gets me to wondering what possible advantage it would offer versus a cone-and-chain design. More compact maybe, I dunno.
Automotive engineers could use the exact same concept, if they wanted to. I have to wonder if part of the reason they don't is that there would be no transmission shops doing $3,000 rebuilds on them.
How is that statement not an insinuation that automotive engineers are in cahoots with transmission shops? Any reasonable person wouldn't wonder such a thing because it would be ridiculous.
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Originally Posted by GarageLogic
Believe whatever you want to believe. But the FACT is that these new, complicated cars are the BEST thing that has ever happened to shop-owners like me.
The general consensus with most shop owners is that modern cars are actually making it more difficult and expensive to get repairs done. Modern cars with complicated electronics often require manufacturer specific diagnosing equipment that is very expensive for the typical automotive repair shop to acquire.
How is that statement not an insinuation that automotive engineers are in cahoots with transmission shops? Any reasonable person wouldn't wonder such a thing because it would be ridiculous.
The general consensus with most shop owners is that modern cars are actually making it more difficult and expensive to get repairs done. Modern cars with complicated electronics often require manufacturer specific diagnosing equipment that is very expensive for the typical automotive repair shop to acquire.
You would be very wrong about that. 90% of all non-visual automotive problems can be diagnosed (at least headed in the right direction) by any OBD2 scanner you can rent (for free) from any parts store.
You would be very wrong about that. 90% of all automotive problems can be diagnosed (at least headed in the right direction) by any OBD2 scanner you can rent (for free) from any parts store.
I'm very familiar with OBD2 scanners as I have a bluetooth unit in my car right now feeding the Torque app on my phone..
What I'm getting at is that although cars are still fairly easy to diagnose/fix, vehicles are getting increasingly more complex and specialized. Some shops even have a hard time with semi-modern cars. A few years ago when my G35's transmission took a crap, I took it to two independent shops who couldn't diagnose the problem (no dash lights thrown). I ended up taking it to the dealer to have it diagnosed and then towed it to another shop to actually get it fixed. I can only imagine how well they will be able to diagnose/repair cars ten years from now.
I'm very familiar with OBD2 scanners as I have a bluetooth unit in my car right now feeding the Torque app on my phone..
Not sure why you wrote that. I'm not in any way implying that you're not familiar with OBD2 scanners. I said that anybody can use them - for free - and that the overwhelming majority of issues are diagnosed that way. No expensive diagnostic equipment needed.
Not sure why you wrote that. I'm not in any way implying that you're not familiar with OBD2 scanners. I said that anybody can use them - for free - and that the overwhelming majority of issues are diagnosed that way. No expensive diagnostic equipment needed.
I said that because you said:
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Originally Posted by GarageLogic
You would be very wrong about that. 90% of all non-visual automotive problems can be diagnosed (at least headed in the right direction) by any OBD2 scanner you can rent (for free) from any parts store.
You wouldn't have made that statement if you knew that I am very familiar with diagnosing problems via OBD codes. If you did know that I was very familiar with it and still made that statement, that would be silly of you.
The point is that many issues cannot be diagnosed so easily and this will be increasingly so as time goes on.
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