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Old 09-09-2013, 04:00 PM
 
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Toyota has reissued a recall of 870,000 vehicles in the United States and Canada after discovering initial repairs were not performed properly, the Japanese automaker said Monday.

"We got reports there was a problem with vehicles that had supposedly been fixed in the initial recall," spokeswoman Cindy Knight told AFP.

"It turns out dealerships weren't performing the repairs correctly."

Toyota has issued new instructions to dealers and will be notifying customers that they need to bring their vehicles back in to be checked.

In a notice to safety regulators, Toyota said it found that the rear tie rod could develop "unwanted movement and rust" if the nuts are improperly tightened during service.

This could eventually lead to thread damage and eventual failure of the tie rod, which would cause an abrupt change in the vehicle's alignment.

The recall affects RAV4 vehicles with model years 2006 through 2010 and Lexus HS250h vehicles built from October 2005 through September 2010.

It was the second time in a week that Toyota issued a second recall for the same group of vehicles.

Some 133,000 Highyland and Lexus RX vehicles were recalled in the United States Tuesday to repair a problem with the hybrid engine's inverter system.

The vehicles were recalled in 2011 after initial reports of problems with solder. Further investigation discovered a problem with the circuitry.
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This goes to prove that even #1 car reliability company has issues.

My thinking is instead of driving a "reliable" appliance, I'd much rather own a fun to drive vehicle... Reliability is such a hit and miss thing, drivability is a real, measurable thing.
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Old 09-09-2013, 04:03 PM
 
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Toyota, in the past 10 years, has become what General Motors became in the 70s & 80s - arrogant and lazy.
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Old 09-09-2013, 05:20 PM
 
Location: Cincinnati, OH
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+1 to both posts.
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Old 09-09-2013, 06:38 PM
 
Location: East of Seattle since 1992, 615' Elevation, Zone 8b - originally from SF Bay Area
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Actually, the worst crap car we ever had was an older Toyota, 1996 4Runner.
Never bought another one since and never will. They built a good reputation then
failed to live up to it.
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Old 09-09-2013, 09:04 PM
 
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Toyota, in the past 10 years, has become what General Motors became in the 70s & 80s - arrogant and lazy.

Actually, I do see dealerships becoming arrogant and lazy. Cudos for Toyota for reaching out, making sure things are fixed, and not being corporately afraid of it.


"We got reports there was a problem with vehicles that had supposedly been fixed in the initial recall," spokeswoman Cindy Knight told AFP.

"It turns out dealerships weren't performing the repairs correctly."
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Old 09-09-2013, 09:32 PM
 
Location: Southern Arizona
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Bottom line . . .

Toyota is, and has been for some time, cutting every corner possible to keep their prices down.
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Old 09-09-2013, 10:15 PM
 
Location: Here
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This goes to prove that even #1 car reliability company has issues.

My thinking is instead of driving a "reliable" appliance, I'd much rather own a fun to drive vehicle... Reliability is such a hit and miss thing, drivability is a real, measurable thing.
Fun, drivability is measurable? And reliability is not? Post your stats.
"Hit or miss" as you call it is a probability which is measurable.
While to you, having a bad experience with a brand makes it seem more likely that you get a sh-tty one next time you go with that brand, it is not necessarily true. With a brand like Toyota, being consistently rated as a reliable car company, your probability of getting a reliable vehicle increases. Sure there are bad apples in the basket, but the tree overall is great.




Toyota is doing the right thing with the recalls. They made a lot of mistakes with their 09-10 pedal issue but they're learning from it and are trying to be transparent with issues, unlike other brands like Chrysler 2-3 months ago refusing to recall Jeeps after the NHTSA pushed the issue.
Even though this seems to be more of Toyota's dealers' not getting things right, Toyota is stepping up. Kudos.
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Old 09-09-2013, 10:23 PM
 
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I just got back my Toyota Sequoia from the dealer after I received two recalls notices: the first requiring frame undercoating to prevent rust, and the second gave me a new front passenger air bag. All in all my SUV has been pretty maintenance free with only minor nuisance issues.
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Old 09-09-2013, 10:39 PM
 
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I've owned eight Toyotas and none have left me stranded. I owned a 2007 RAV4 for 4 years and never had a single problem with it. I traded it in on a PriusV and have had no issues with it. I wish the engine was quieter when accelerating but when I look at the display and see I've averaged 45.4 MPG driving mostly city miles over 25,000 miles I have no quibbles.

Are the Toyotas today what they were 30 years ago when I bought my first Corolla reliability wise? Probably not.

A couple years ago I was at the local Chevy dealer killing time. The salesman asked me what i was driving. When I told him a Toyota he said, "Keep it."
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