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Old 11-26-2013, 10:24 AM
 
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Again, you're off on a tangent. It would help if you could manage to keep your thoughts in one place.
Not at all. Just because you don't like the facts exposes doesn't mean someone can't expose them!

Its completely on topic to discuss WHY our money was thrown in the toilet.

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Old 11-26-2013, 10:26 AM
 
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As you said yourself, the DOE is not a bank. Fisker was founded in August 7, 2007 while the DOE loan was granted on September 2009 (more than 2 years later). It's fairly obvious that the company had already been started with backers and investors.
So you just proved yourself wrong then.

Oh...and the loan was made supposedly because they were under water and failing. So let's put OTHER people's money at risk! Brilliant!!

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Old 11-26-2013, 10:27 AM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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Not at all. Just because you don't like the facts exposes doesn't mean someone can't expose them!

Its completely on topic to discuss WHY our money was thrown in the toilet.

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I don't hate nor do I like what you have to say but it certainly isn't right. Al Gore didn't head the company. He was a partner in a venture capitalist firm that supported Fisker Automotive. Get your facts right prior to going head first into a discussion. It's like getting into a gun fight with a child who forgot his bullets.
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Old 11-26-2013, 10:29 AM
 
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Electric cars are a product that people want to buy. You may not want to buy it but others certainly do. This is fact.
Really now?

Have you checked the numbers of Chevy Volts sold?

And the Volt is cheap in comparison to the Fisker. Only millionaires and movie stars could ever afford one. Does an ultra-expensive super luxurious electric car sound like a good business model to you?

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Old 11-26-2013, 10:30 AM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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So you just proved yourself wrong then.

Oh...and the loan was made supposedly because they were under water and failing. So let's put OTHER people's money at risk! Brilliant!!

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Which part is wrong? Be very specific because I'd love to see it. I will post a direct quote from my post from earlier in the thread: "It is not a bank and doesn't function as one."
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Old 11-26-2013, 10:31 AM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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Really now?

Have you checked the numbers of Chevy Volts sold?

And the Volt is cheap in comparison to the Fisker. Only millionaires and movie stars could ever afford one. Does an ultra-expensive super luxurious electric car sound like a good business model to you?

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Have you ever heard of Tesla? They're having trouble producing enough of them. On top of that, most new tech follows a similar price curve as it becomes less expensive as the number of early adopters increases. This means that if things continue on their current path, you will see significantly less expensive EV's going forward.
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Old 11-26-2013, 10:37 AM
 
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Chevy announced what their hopeful target of sales of the Volt would be. They are lower than meeting 50% if that goal AND that is after the $5000 incentive by Chevy and the $7500 incentive of a government tax credit.

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Old 11-26-2013, 10:43 AM
 
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Chevy announced what their hopeful target of sales of the Volt would be. They are lower than meeting 50% if that goal AND that is after the $5000 incentive by Chevy and the $7500 incentive of a government tax credit.

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This says little other than Chevrolet is having trouble meeting Chevy Volt sales targets. It tells you nothing about the electric vehicle segment as a whole. Nor does a prior failure by one business produce a barrier to success for another. In fact, history is littered with successful businesses that found success by selling a product/service that proved to be a failure for another.
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Old 11-26-2013, 10:44 AM
 
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Have you ever heard of Tesla? They're having trouble producing enough of them. On top of that, most new tech follows a similar price curve as it becomes less expensive as the number of early adopters increases. This means that if things continue on their current path, you will see significantly less expensive EV's going forward.
So then....following your own logic, no taxpayer money needed to be wasted on a failing company.

Oh....and Tesla had to fired their sales and marketing director since sales were SO good..right?

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Old 11-26-2013, 10:48 AM
 
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This says little other than Chevrolet is having trouble meeting Chevy Volt sales targets. It tells you nothing about the electric vehicle segment as a whole. Nor does a prior failure by one business produce a barrier to success for another.
Hshahahaha.......so when the cheapest available electric car with $12,500 worth of incentives doesn't sell, investing in the most expensive electric car makes sense to you?

Sorry....I'm laughing too hard to continue.

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