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If you are a true audiophile, you should have replaced the factory stereo and speakers already. You could use expensive audio measuring devices or you could just use your ears. I first balance the the front and rear. For some reason, at the middle setting, the rear speakers greatly over power the front door speakers (hate door speakers). On my stereo, zero is the center or middle. Bass and treble goes to + or - 7. I have the fade at 3 to 4 to the front. Bass is at +3 while treble is at +1. Though my door speakers are good (not great) sounding Kenwood, having them on the front doors numbs the sound. My calves don't have ears. I believe having them so close to the carpet floor automatically cuts or muffles the sound. You just have to make the best of what you have. I can't change the placement of my speakers. A perfect audiophile car would have speakers on the dashboard (highs and midrange), rear dash (highs and midrange), maybe some door mounted woofers, and a subwoofer in the trunk. Exact placement and speaker type would depend on interior design, materials, and acoustics of the vehicle. Some vehicles' trunks handle subwoofers great while some rattle even on low power subwoofers. I once had a car with rear 6x9 two way speakers which had a bass like a subwoofer because of the structure of the trunk.
This is all false...
It doesnt matter what the high dollar equipment tells you if you cant HEAR 20-20K hertz.
One of the things I found selling high end (home) speakers back in the day is that you cant tell people what they hear. They either hear it or they dont.
In a car you set it up the way it sounds right to you. As long as the staging is sound you're in good shape
It doesnt matter what the high dollar equipment tells you if you cant HEAR 20-20K hertz.
One of the things I found selling high end (home) speakers back in the day is that you cant tell people what they hear. They either hear it or they dont.
In a car you set it up the way it sounds right to you. As long as the staging is sound you're in good shape
I feel to see which part is false since nothing he said mentions frequency ranges. Can you break his post down line by line and specify why you think each statement is incorrect?
There is most certainly a difference in audio quality between a poor set of speakers (the kind most cars come with) and a good set. There is also a noticeable difference in quality when using a dedicated speaker amp.
I feel to see which part is false since nothing he said mentions frequency ranges. Can you break his post down line by line and specify why you think each statement is incorrect?
There is most certainly a difference in audio quality between a poor set of speakers (the kind most cars come with) and a good set. There is also a noticeable difference in quality when using a dedicated speaker amp.
He didnt mention frequency but it was implied. If you cant hear the full range of sound (20-20K) then it doesnt matter what speakers you have. It only matters what you can hear.
I hear funny. I love full bass, full treble and I make the midrange neg. 5 if I have the option. I know it's not "right" but it's the setting I prefer.
Same here. I have the bass cranked all the way up, midrange a few notches below 0, and treble around 2/3's of the way between 0 and max.
He didnt mention frequency but it was implied. If you cant hear the full range of sound (20-20K) then it doesnt matter what speakers you have. It only matters what you can hear.
Line by line????? Get real...
Reading comprehension eludes some more than others.
While it is correct that an individual cannot take advantage of better sound equipment if they can't perceive the difference, the post you quoted said nothing to the contrary.
Unless you can quote him saying something to the effect of "All people can hear the same range of audio frequencies." then you are arguing with yourself.
As a temporary stop gap, can a somewhat similar effect to this be done by fading the speakers to the front slightly? (my sub is a powered sub though).
Absolutely. If the powered sub is tied to the rear speakers, you may need to turn it up a bit to compensate.
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I hear funny. I love full bass, full treble and I make the midrange neg. 5 if I have the option. I know it's not "right" but it's the setting I prefer.
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Originally Posted by SabresFanInSA
This is all false...
It doesnt matter what the high dollar equipment tells you if you cant HEAR 20-20K hertz.
One of the things I found selling high end (home) speakers back in the day is that you cant tell people what they hear. They either hear it or they dont.
In a car you set it up the way it sounds right to you. As long as the staging is sound you're in good shape
But if you know what you're doing you can help people understand what they're hearing, to the extent that they may appreciate a better setup.
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Originally Posted by SabresFanInSA
He didnt mention frequency but it was implied. If you cant hear the full range of sound (20-20K) then it doesnt matter what speakers you have. It only matters what you can hear.
Line by line????? Get real...
Are you suggesting that the only difference between speakers is frequency response? You've certainly implied it.
Are you also suggesting the the only thing a person can hear differently from one speaker to another is frequency response? Can a person who only hears to ~16Khz not appreciate a better speaker? Here's a hint-for most adults that is the useful upper limit.
"Audiophile" doesn't make sense to me in an environment like a car where there are so many sources of sonic noise from tire noise to wind noise to engine noise to road surface noise and the vibrations caused by any of the above. If it sounds relatively clear over all that noise and covers a relatively broad frequency range, that's good enough for me.
"Audiophile" doesn't make sense to me in an environment like a car where there are so many sources of sonic noise from tire noise to wind noise to engine noise to road surface noise and the vibrations caused by any of the above. If it sounds relatively clear over all that noise and covers a relatively broad frequency range, that's good enough for me.
Audiophile refers to the person, not the environment. Assuming I'm an audiophile (I'm not; more of an educated, experienced, interested listener) I have the same high expectations no matter where I'm listening. Whether I'm willing to spend the time and money to acheive that in every environment is another issue.
My Mark VIII had a great system in it. Alpine head, ADS/MB Quart Q series speakers, JL subs, matched 2nd gen PPI Art Series amps. It sounded phenomenal. I sold the car with the system in it and bought all new JL speakers, subs, and amps for the incoming GTO. A couple months of driving it and I realized I wasn't willing to add the cost, weight, and time to get that car anywhere close to as quiet as my Mark VIII had been. Plus the trunk was tiny, and I really liked the sound of the car, which I knew I'd be improving on. So I went with a modest setup as I described in an earlier post, and it's been fine. The JL rep was impressed, given how simple the system was. Attention to detail made the difference.
"Audiophile" doesn't make sense to me in an environment like a car where there are so many sources of sonic noise from tire noise to wind noise to engine noise to road surface noise and the vibrations caused by any of the above. If it sounds relatively clear over all that noise and covers a relatively broad frequency range, that's good enough for me.
Audiophile refers to the person, not the environment. Assuming I'm an audiophile (I'm not; more of an educated, experienced, interested listener) I have the same high expectations no matter where I'm listening. Whether I'm willing to spend the time and money to acheive that in every environment is another issue.
My Mark VIII had a great system in it. Alpine head, ADS/MB Quart Q series speakers, JL subs, matched 2nd gen PPI Art Series amps. It sounded phenomenal. I sold the car with the system in it and bought all new JL speakers, subs, and amps for the incoming GTO. A couple months of driving it and I realized I wasn't willing to add the cost, weight, and time to get that car anywhere close to as quiet as my Mark VIII had been. Plus the trunk was tiny, and I really liked the sound of the car, which I knew I'd be improving on. So I went with a modest setup as I described in an earlier post, and it's been fine. The JL rep was impressed, given how simple the system was. Attention to detail made the difference.
My car has a 5 band equalizer that's controlled with sliders on the radio. Really convenient compared to new cars because I can adjust them quickly without having to click through a bunch of menus on the radio. I just adjust them until it sounds good. Right now I have it in an arch, mid-levels up and treble and base both down.
One of my rear speakers is burnt out and it isn't worth the money to fix it, so I've adjusted the pan so that I don't hear tinny sound out of it.
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