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Old 04-02-2014, 09:46 AM
 
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sorry but the jeep xj was one of the best ever made. I think it's a shame they decided to discontinue it.
I wholeheartedly agree, but the only thing that the XJ Cherokee shares with the new Cherokee is its name.
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Old 04-02-2014, 10:09 AM
 
Location: Anchorage, KY
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I had a 98 Toyota 4 Runner and it was really a nice off-road vehicle however the new ones are nothing but a crossover not really designed to go off-road. Just take a look at them, would you take that vehicle off-road? Same as the Honda CRV, the new ones are huge compared to what they used to be, a four-wheel-drive system may be the same or better but the vehicle itself is certainly not intended to be used off-road the matter how you look at it. The same goes for many others as mentioned earlier.

The automakers only want to manufacture vehicles that will sell huge volumes and true off-road vehicles are not that high in demand. Very few customers truly ever leave the road except maybe to park on the front lawn while they wash the car.
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Old 04-02-2014, 10:21 AM
 
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^This is not a real backcountry-capable 4Runner? Probably the most backcountry-capable 4Runner Toyota has built. TRD Pro 4runner, coming soon . . .
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Old 04-02-2014, 10:31 AM
 
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Considering that it performs better than the small block V8's of just a few years ago, I would say quite a few. It also is only the second most fuel efficient full-size pickup on the market--second only to the Ram 1500 with the 3.0 V6 Ecodiesel.

How well does it pull a 6000 pound trailer?
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Old 04-02-2014, 10:32 AM
 
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sorry but the jeep xj was one of the best ever made. I think it's a shame they decided to discontinue it.

Chrysler could no longer sell the old Cherokee because it would not meet more stringent crash requirements.
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Old 04-02-2014, 10:51 AM
 
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How well does it pull a 6000 pound trailer?
I wouldn't use a 1/2 ton truck to pull a 6,000 lb. trailer. For work, I drive a 3/4 ton 4WD 6.7 diesel Super Duty Ford. Unladen, it will get over 20 mpg on the highway pretty consistently. For towing, it will leave any gas V8 in the dust, including the Ram Hemi. All of that said, I believe the Ram 1500 Ecodiesel is rated to pull 9,000 lb., from what I can read about it.
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Old 04-02-2014, 10:51 AM
 
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I had a 98 Toyota 4 Runner and it was really a nice off-road vehicle however the new ones are nothing but a crossover not really designed to go off-road. Just take a look at them, would you take that vehicle off-road? Same as the Honda CRV, the new ones are huge compared to what they used to be, a four-wheel-drive system may be the same or better but the vehicle itself is certainly not intended to be used off-road the matter how you look at it. The same goes for many others as mentioned earlier.

The automakers only want to manufacture vehicles that will sell huge volumes and true off-road vehicles are not that high in demand. Very few customers truly ever leave the road except maybe to park on the front lawn while they wash the car.
What are you talking about? The 4R is a very capable off-road machine, still a full frame SUV, not a crossover at all. They are slightly larger yes, but it is not like they are the size of a suburban or anything. The 4R is great off-road.
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Old 04-02-2014, 10:52 AM
 
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How well does it pull a 6000 pound trailer?
Not everyone needs to pull 6k, if they do, there are options for them to get that will enable them to pull that.
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Old 04-02-2014, 03:24 PM
 
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How well does it pull a 6000 pound trailer?
My Grand Cherokee with the same V6 and 8 speed is rated for 6200. I wouldn't want to load it that high on a regular basis, but it can be done with the factory towing package and a trailer brake.
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Old 04-02-2014, 05:07 PM
 
Location: Vancouver, B.C., Canada
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=60C6kaCiDeE
I would say the old Full-Size Bronco is the best bang for the buck Hard to beat a manual locking hubs manual 2-speed transfer case a with a built C6 3-speed auto and a vehicle that all the parts are easy to repair and replace since pretty much everything from a 1980-1996 F-series PU will fit and it is made to be run hard off-road.


This is a fun toy and you get a second vehicle that gets better fuel economy and the fact that is has a Roll Cage and 4-point harness for the driver and passenger
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