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Old 07-30-2014, 06:30 PM
 
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Hey guys! I have taken great care of my 2001 Acura CL-S, has 161k miles on it now.

My question to all you here, do you guys change the power steering fluid on cars? My family has owned multiple cars over 200k and we have never changed the power steering fluid. I have no problems with the power steering at this point. Since I recently moved, I have taken the car to 2 Acura dealers, and 1 said to change it, and 1 said not to change it. I found a private Japanese mechanic and he said not to change it and it's a waste of money. Many mechanics say that power steering is "lifelong" and you shouldn't change it unless you have some problem -said the fluid will always be dark when it's this old and that's normal.

Do I really need to change it? Just wanted to ask the automotive community here! I make sure the oil, tranny fluid and coolant are up to date. I always try to do things myself to save money, so will just order Honda PS fluid from Amazon and change it myself than the $110 that Honda or Acura wanted!
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Old 07-30-2014, 06:41 PM
 
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I change it myself, I figure it can't hurt other than minimal cost to me. I do it every year or so, when I am waiting for the engine oil to drain. I usually suck it out with a Turkey baster and refill, run it and redo 2-3 times for a fresh fluid.
You have to make sure you are using the right fluid though. Your Acura probably calls for a Honda specific fluid ($$).
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Old 07-31-2014, 12:46 AM
 
Location: un peu près de Chicago
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Your Acura probably calls for a Honda specific fluid ($$).
Honda power steering fluid costs $3.25 per 12 oz jug online. The Honda P.S. reservoir holds about 12 oz. The total capacity of the P.S. unit is about 1 liter. Repeat draining and filling reservoir 5 times to replace 86% of old fluid with new. Do it once at 60,000 miles, then drain and add two jugs every 30,000 miles thereafter. That is more than enough.
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Old 07-31-2014, 12:51 AM
 
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Some cars also have filters in the PS system somewhere. i know BMW has one in the reservoir and the filter is changed by replacing the reservoir. Changing PS fluid is easy and cheap, changing a pump or even a rack is much less so. I've always changed PS fluid and never had a problem in a rack with high mileage cars.. but you never know!
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Old 07-31-2014, 06:20 AM
 
Location: Londonderry, NH
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the Power steering is a closed system and the oil, unless contaminated by dirt if the cap goes missing, should stay clean. Don't fix what ain't broke is always a good idea.
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Old 07-31-2014, 10:54 AM
 
Location: UpstateNY
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only the owners manual knows for sure........
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Old 07-31-2014, 02:18 PM
 
Location: U.S.A.
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the Power steering is a closed system and the oil, unless contaminated by dirt if the cap goes missing, should stay clean. Don't fix what ain't broke is always a good idea.
Even though it is closed system, most power steering pumps are rotary vane. If you are familiar with rotary vane pumps you know that the vanes are designed to wear down over time. Each vane is spring loaded against the machined casting so that as they wear, they still maintain a seal. However that worn down vane material has to go somewhere, into the fluid. Some manufacturers use in-line filters, most do not. Hence the need to replace the fluid and/or filter.

Also do not forget metal particulate from gear box or steering rack use over time. There is quite a bit of metal on metal force in these steering mechanisms that again, wear over time. Flakes and metal bits are then suspended in the fluid.
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Old 07-31-2014, 03:10 PM
 
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only the owners manual knows for sure........

I always follow the owner's manual. But the Acura owner's manual never mentions power steering fluid, implying don't bother changing it. My friend's 2002 Acura CL manual never mentions anything either.
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Old 07-31-2014, 04:35 PM
 
Location: New Haven, CT
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Power steering fluid is about the only fluid I never got specific with.

I always got whatever gas station power steering fluid and used it and its fine. You should only need to refill it if theres a leak. Ive had a leak on the seals that are on the end of the rack. Usually a torn boot on both tie rods is a good indicator of maintenance needed.
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Old 07-31-2014, 04:41 PM
 
Location: Hawaii-Puna District
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At 161k miles, it is due for a refresh, no matter what the manual says.
Just use the "turkey baster method".
Buy 2 bottles of the Honda PS fluid.
1. Engine off, use a turkey baster to suck out as much fluid as you can from the reservoir, then top off with fresh fluid.
2. Drive the car around the block or similar, turning the wheel back/forth multiple times.
3. Repeat the above steps a couple more times. You will notice the fluid getting cleaner and brighter red and probably notice less noise from the PS pump.
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