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Old 08-04-2014, 01:43 PM
 
Location: NYC
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In 2014, the minimal city mpg should be 25mph and 35mpg hway for a medium sized car. For SUV, it has to do 20mpg city and 27mpg hway. There are tons of ways to save fuel that car makers are not doing because buyers are ignorant.

For example we should go for lighter doors without losing durability but people don't like the sound of hollow doors because the car "feels" like tin can.

I don't think doors will protect you from a crash it's the beams and cage that protect you.

A lot of fuel savings can be gotten if people can accept some changes instead of the same 60s mentality that cars must feel heavy in order to be safe.
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Old 08-04-2014, 01:57 PM
 
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In 2014, the minimal city mpg should be 25mph and 35mpg hway for a medium sized car. For SUV, it has to do 20mpg city and 27mpg hway. There are tons of ways to save fuel that car makers are not doing because buyers are ignorant.

For example we should go for lighter doors without losing durability but people don't like the sound of hollow doors because the car "feels" like tin can.

I don't think doors will protect you from a crash it's the beams and cage that protect you.

A lot of fuel savings can be gotten if people can accept some changes instead of the same 60s mentality that cars must feel heavy in order to be safe.
Are you kidding? Most new cars are made like a tin can and full of plastic. So you want them made with even more plastic and thin sheet metal? Don't worry it's coming...and I'll still be driving my heavy trucks from the 90s Soon these cars won't be able to withstand a bird flying into them without losing the whole front end LOLLL
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Old 08-04-2014, 02:00 PM
 
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Probably around 11 mpg, but it depends on the car. My Q7 does 17/23 which for a vehicle that size and that powerful is fantastic.

I had a Tahoe before that that did about 15/20, still quite good.

For something like a gas powered F250, and average of 14 mpg would be quite good.
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Old 08-04-2014, 02:03 PM
 
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What do you drive? A 50cc moped?
4 cylinder diesel engine would do that (Audi/VW/BMW), no expensive Hybrid required
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Old 08-04-2014, 02:03 PM
 
Location: SW France
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And what would be acceptable if you were paying what we pay- $7.50 for a US gallon equivalent?
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Old 08-04-2014, 02:05 PM
 
Location: Montgomery County, PA
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I won't let mpg force me into something I don't want. It might work the other way though. A crazy low mpg may dissuade me from buying something I otherwise like. My Dodge pickup with a V8 gets 14mpg in town and close to 20 on the highway. I don't drive much so I am OK.
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Old 08-04-2014, 02:07 PM
 
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13 mpg.
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Old 08-04-2014, 02:13 PM
 
Location: Montgomery County, PA
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And what would be acceptable if you were paying what we pay- $7.50 for a US gallon equivalent?
This is a hypothetical question as if it happens overnight it brings the whole country to a stand still. Overtime, who knows. The $4 a gallon we pay now sounded like $7 when gas was $1.5 a gallon. People are still buying 4-ton SUVs. BTW, don't think that you paying $7 a gallon in Europe has solved anything. All you have done is to deny yourself pleasures of life. Live in cramped quarters, drive spartan cars and shiver in cold at home. World hunger, global warming, drought and beached whales are still happening. Believe me, nobody on his death bed is going to say he wished he had saved more fuel.
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Old 08-04-2014, 02:19 PM
 
Location: Windsor, Ontario, Canada
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My YJ is my DD, and only gets 13mpg....and it's a 4 banger. lol


But, it is lifted, and has the aerodynamics of a brick. Either way, I'll pay it.
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Old 08-04-2014, 02:34 PM
 
Location: Keosauqua, Iowa
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How is anyone able to answer this question? If all cars were the same price that would be one thing, but they aren't. What if saving $5000 in fuel over the life of the vehicle requires you to spend $10,000 more up front?
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