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I find it interesting those Toyota trucks,(this goes back to Somalia usage) can mount and fire a Soviet 12.7mm or large HMG. Maybe the accuracy is comprised by the supporting platform vibrating.
It seems they'll drive whatever is readily available for them to steal.
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Originally Posted by Mandalorian
Those guys have money, they can send their buyers into a dealership in Baghdad or wherever and buy whatever they want.
I'm pretty sure that it is hard to legally obtain an American truck in a hostile country because we just won't import vehicles there and do not maintain dealer networks there. Toyota doesn't seem to have those hang ups. But I've seen domestic trucks in their hands before, but the "technicals" do almost always end up being Toyota Hilux but also the occasional Mitsubishi L200/Triton or Nissan Navara.
Not if we're counting on the Iraqi Army and IPs to make that happen.
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Originally Posted by Felix C
I find it interesting those Toyota trucks,(this goes back to Somalia usage) can mount and fire a Soviet 12.7mm or large HMG. Maybe the accuracy is comprised by the supporting platform vibrating.
It actually goes back further... the Chadian-Libyan conflict was actually nicknamed "The Toyota War". The idea of what are now known as "technical vehicles" is nothing new, at all. The first armored cars were simply passenger cars with some steel plate fitted and a machine gun mounted, then there's units such as the Long Range Desert Group duing the Africa Campaign of WWII.
As for accuracy, yes, but a HMG isn't intended to be a super high precision weapon in the first place.
When I was there in 2004 it was very common to see armored Range Rovers, S600, 745, etc. I bet we left alot of those vehicles behind. I drove a 2000 Chevy Tahoe while I was there. We leased it from a vendor off base. No telling where he got it. When I went back in 2008 as a contractor I drove a 2008 Ford Explorer that we leased for $5000 a month from a Kuwait company on base.
I'm pretty sure that it is hard to legally obtain an American truck in a hostile country because we just won't import vehicles there and do not maintain dealer networks there. Toyota doesn't seem to have those hang ups. But I've seen domestic trucks in their hands before, but the "technicals" do almost always end up being Toyota Hilux but also the occasional Mitsubishi L200/Triton or Nissan Navara.
Hummers are very popular in North Korea.
Iraq is not a hostile country. You can import vehicles from the US. Likewise with NK, cars go from the US to a third party country like China, then there.
Iraq is not a hostile country. You can import vehicles from the US. Likewise with NK, cars go from the US to a third party country like China, then there.
In a country which doesn't even want its populace having bicycles? Seems a bit far fetched to make it seem like they're that common there.
Not to mention that, if you are seeing them there, they're more likely Chinese clones such as those produced under the auspices of DonFeng and Eastwind.
That is not an F150, it's an F250 or F350. Most likely diesel and they're built likes tanks as well.
Even a F-150 is tougher than some piece of crap Toyota.
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Don't think so (if you are talking post 1990 or so..., even earlier demise of the Tough Ford...))
Driven a tank lately?
If I'm being shot at by US planes and copters, at least give me a HiLux for my Anti-aircraft guns.
terrorist vehicle of choice for 20+ yrs.
I like the story about how the Canadian Flag on the HiLux is a symbol of 'tough', cuz the Jihadists happened to commandeer a shipment of them provided by Canadians and destined to Foreign Gov.
Tho I think Toyota should place laser targeting devices on Hilux.
Nope 2002 F-250 Super Duty with a 7.3L Power Stroke is still as tough as they come. I own one and have since it was new.
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It seems they'll drive whatever is readily available for them to steal. Nothing against the Hilux, they're great trucks, but I'll take the diesel Super Duty(even the 6.0L with the EGR sorted out) any day over the Toyota. Anyway, my whole point was they were driving an F250 not the lesser F150.
No comparison really if you know your stuff.
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I'm thinking that high tech Super Duty isn't going to be happy in a warfare situation when the only fuel available is desert sludge that's been sitting in an old rusting barrel.
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Even a F-150 is tougher than some piece of crap Toyota.
Ford...))
