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Old 11-15-2014, 04:32 PM
 
Location: Vallejo
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Whats particularly special about the Genesis. It's a big, most boring in class but most affordable in class (sort of) car. I've driven the old 5.0 R spec. It's a decent engine in a decent car with a decent interior at a good price, but it's nothing special. Reliability issues aside, VW makes some great products. In its category, the Golf is definitely much more interesting than the Genesis.
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Old 11-16-2014, 07:22 AM
 
Location: Floribama
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Now if a nice American car like the Mustang or the Challenger had won COTY all the naysayers would be all over themselves about how smart Motor Trend was to pick it as COTY. But, oh, VW.

It's obviously a good enough car to be considered and chosen. Maybe you folks should drive one first.
Too ugly for me.
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Old 11-16-2014, 08:43 AM
 
Location: Central Texas
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MTs COY has always been a joke and this one is no different. Just reading their criteria for the winning car should be enough for you to ignore the the winner. Like the lateral test. How many Gs can one of the cars take. Out of the hundreds of thousands made, maybe as many as 50 MIGHT see a race track. Pretty stupid criteria. Take their Truck of the Year, the Dodge diesel that's having all of the issues with the injection system these days. The best selling truck in the entire USA, the F150, wasn't even evaluated. And the Dodge went up against the Sprinter, the Transit, two GMCs, and an incredibly outdated Tundra. Again, pretty stupid test. Motor Trend has no credibility anymore. They're just another Consumer Reports that has so much bias that it's worthless info.
Do you understand the MT award is only for vehicles that have been significantly redesigned? That's why the 2014 F150 wasn't included. It will be in next year's award.

It is nothing like Consumer Reports. How do you make that connection?
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Old 11-16-2014, 09:01 AM
 
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no surprise, Yahoo testing drivers came up with same result a while back

http://www.city-data.com/forum/autom...-golf-gti.html

I think people should drive one before criticizing them, they are a driver's car and at a different level compared to competition (for the money you pay of course).
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Old 11-16-2014, 10:12 AM
 
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Earlier this year at the Beijing Auto Show, Volkswagen unveiled a concept hatchback known as the Golf R 400. It sported all the understated looks and cleanly hewn lines of the standard Golf R but with one rather notable addition, a power bump to the tune of around 400 horsepower.

Understandably, fan reception was good. So good in fact that this Golf to rule all other Golfs will allegedly go into production and could be heading to a Volkswagen dealership near you.
RELATED: Check out more photos of the high-powered 2014 Golf R 400 Concept
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Though yet to be confirmed by Volkswagen, the UKís CAR magazine is reporting that a production-ready R 400 is a sure thing, and expected to make its debut at the 2015 Frankfurt Auto Show just ahead of a late-2015 ship date. Final output figures are still unknown, but the publicationís sources indicate somewhere in the area of 400 to 414 horsepower.
So where will those 400-plus-horsepowers come from? Astonishingly, itíll be a high-output variant of the Golf Rís current 2.0-liter turbo four-cylinder, which produces a punchy 292 horsepower as stock. Weíve already seen this tuned version in both the Golf R 400 concept as well as the 420-horsepower Audi TT Sport Quattro concept. If the car does get the green light, it should spin up all four wheels quite readily.
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Befitting its massive horsepower figure, the potent Golf is pegged to receive subtle aerodynamic tweaks and beefy brakes. Though since it has to roll down the same Wolfsburg production line in tandem with every other Golf, wheelbase and other hard figures are expect to remain unchanged.
The price? That too is unknown, but estimates price it less than Ä50,000 in Germany, which would put it somewhere in the $62,000 range on these shores Ö if it even arrives. Stay tuned for more on this.
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/400hp-v...183053574.html
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Old 11-17-2014, 11:46 AM
 
Location: Michigan
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I find this far less puzzling than giving the CR-V "SUV of the year" (the Honda, while roomy, competent, and very reliable, is quite bland). The new Golf does just about everything better, even much better than the previous one. I greatly enjoyed the new GTI I tested for a week.

On the reliability front, I conduct a quarterly survey, and the 2015 Golf appears to be very reliable so far. In fact, the first dozen members to buy one have yet to report any repairs. Very early, with just a small amount of data, but a promising start. We'll see how it fares as we update our stats quarterly.

My review of the Golf and GTI:

Why (Not) This Car?: 2015 Volkwagen Golf, GTI, and e-Golf Preview | TrueDelta
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Old 11-17-2014, 11:49 AM
 
Location: Michigan
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Whats particularly special about the Genesis. It's a big, most boring in class but most affordable in class (sort of) car. I've driven the old 5.0 R spec. It's a decent engine in a decent car with a decent interior at a good price, but it's nothing special. Reliability issues aside, VW makes some great products. In its category, the Golf is definitely much more interesting than the Genesis.
The new Genesis is far better than the original one. All of the journalists at the launch event were surprised by the extent of the improvement. I agree that the styling remains nothing special.
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Old 11-17-2014, 12:13 PM
 
Location: Montgomery County, PA
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This is the 2015 GTI



This is the 1995 GTI

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Old 11-17-2014, 01:13 PM
 
Location: Miami, FL
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This is the 2015 GTI



This is the 1995 GTI
Family resemblance.
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Old 11-17-2014, 03:21 PM
 
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What's unusual is mechanically, the VW Jetta is the same car as the VW Golf and yet the Golf gets all the awards and attention at a higher price over the Jetta. Jetta is also available in fuel efficient base and diesel engines models as well as the same powertrain as the GTI in the Jetta GLI.
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