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Old 11-18-2014, 08:37 PM
 
Location: South Park, San Diego
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Old man yells at internet forum.

Turbocharging was enough to put motors as small as 3 liters in cars weighing roughly 4,500 pounds and still make them very responsive.
Even this is out of date when you add a supercharger to the mix, then the engine size can go down to 2 liters for a 4500 lb vehicle and that turbo/supercharged engine yields 300 hp/ 300 ft lbs of torque and decent fuel economy- the new engine from Volvo/Geely for the XC90.

Or the new 2.0 turbo direct injection engine from Subaru that yields the same hp/torque ratings though that application is for the smaller Levorg Sports Tourer Wagon.
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Old 11-18-2014, 08:46 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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...and superchargers came before them.

Most people use superchargers(people= car manuf) because there's no room for turbos, S/C's tend to fall flat on their face when rpms go down, turbos pick up from there. I'd like to build a car that uses both, turbo, and s/c. S/C's may not be as effecient, but as long as you can raise rpms, it'll make boost, it can also be a simpler, more compact, and cheaper setup than turbos, which means the kit probably wieghs less, Saturn Vue is a good example of that, the redline version was heavier than the n/a version.
Both VW and Volvo make motors that are twincharged (both super and turbo). The VW motor isn't available in the States but the Volvo motor is.
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Old 11-18-2014, 09:17 PM
 
Location: Montgomery County, PA
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One less component, one less thing to worry about. I don’t want to the one having to be on this thread. The SC alone is a $1000-$1400, and that is for a mini.

R53 Drivetrain :: Replaced Supercharger Tonight!!! DIY - North American Motoring
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Old 11-18-2014, 11:29 PM
 
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I plan to keep my cars more than 80 laps.
details, details.
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Old 11-19-2014, 12:29 AM
 
Location: Oceania
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.....but the supercharger makes your engine look cool.

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Old 11-19-2014, 11:58 AM
 
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I believe Volvo has a new engine out with supercharger AND turbo.

Wow, talk about getting to know the service manager at the dealer
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Old 11-19-2014, 01:31 PM
 
Location: San Jose, CA
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I believe Volvo has a new engine out with supercharger AND turbo.

Wow, talk about getting to know the service manager at the dealer
It's really kind of a misnomer. Most twincharger arrangements are one single assembly, not two, as the blower feeds the turbo instead of exhaust gases, and then that outlet feeds into the manifold. It's really a turbocharger with a supercharger, not a motor with a supercharger and a turbocharger. What you can look forward to is a lifetime of compression tests..
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Old 11-19-2014, 04:10 PM
 
Location: Louisville KY
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Both VW and Volvo make motors that are twincharged (both super and turbo). The VW motor isn't available in the States but the Volvo motor is.
Yeah, I know, the VW motor has a turbo, and centrifigal supercharger.
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Old 11-19-2014, 04:13 PM
 
Location: Louisville KY
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It's really kind of a misnomer. Most twincharger arrangements are one single assembly, not two, as the blower feeds the turbo instead of exhaust gases, and then that outlet feeds into the manifold. It's really a turbocharger with a supercharger, not a motor with a supercharger and a turbocharger. What you can look forward to is a lifetime of compression tests..
What do you mean by "single assembly"?
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Old 11-19-2014, 06:23 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Keep an eye out for electric assisted turbochargers, they'll virtually eliminate lag down low where larger turbochargers suffer.
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