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Old 11-19-2014, 11:00 AM
 
Location: Inland Empire, Calif
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That statement puzzles me.
If water boils at 212 degrees Fahrenheit, if a 50/50 coolant/water mixture boils at 223 F, and if a 70/30 mix of coolant/water boils at 235 degrees...how is 100% water more effective at cooling than water mixed with coolant?

Water is the cooling ingredient in a mixture of Ethylene glycol and water. If you ran straight antifreeze you would soon have a heating problem. The maximum efficiency is achieved by running a 50/50 mixture. You can run up to 70% if you live in alaska, but it isn't usually necessary.
Water boils at 212 at sea level. Under pressure the boiling point is raised 2 degrees for every pound of pressure in the system. If you have a 15 lb radiator cap, the boiling point is raised 30 degrees, or 242 degrees, before adding Antifreeze.
Modern cars are all deigned to run at well over 212 degrees for maximum efficiency.
...and all the op wanted was to know why is car smoked....
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Old 11-19-2014, 11:33 AM
 
Location: Earth
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Default No COOLANT??

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Well below freezing.. admittedly it's just water. I noticed my engine running hot last week and I never made it to the store to buy coolant, I didn't even think about that being an issue and cause of problem.

I feel like a dunce now for being lazy and neglectful... and now it could potentially be costly. I need to have the repair shop put coolant in ASAP.
Just water?Man,possibly cracked block,as water turns into ice,it expands ,the reservoir and radiator are probaly shot too. Coolant is just as important as motor oil. Just water is a no-no. Hate to say,but most likely your better off getting a new car,if possible. Depends if that block is cracked.It's gonna cost a pretty penny to replace parts. Always check your fluids,at least you know now. Lessons are learned the hard way sometimes.Let us know what happens.
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Old 11-19-2014, 12:23 PM
 
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50/50 coolant at 15 pounds pressure boils at 265 Degrees f.
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Old 11-19-2014, 12:48 PM
 
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No heat? Thermostat might be shot. Simple to replace. And could lead to some of the other problems which you are having.

Squeaky noise? With running water in the radiator on a well below freezing night? More than likely the water pump is frozen up, the belt that turns it is slipping as it tries to turn the frozen pump. Stinky burning smell, and steam from the water melting.

Get it inside, thaw it out, examine and maybe replace the belt or dress it with a special lubricant, refill with the proper antifreeze/coolant and water mixture, and pray you don't need a new water pump. Unlikely you cracked the block or head as it isn't THAT cold yet, but it could be.....
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Old 11-19-2014, 12:51 PM
 
Location: Ashburn, VA
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Thank you Ron for the informative post....

To report... When the tow arrived they needed to start my car and move it to position it for the toe. Low and behold it started fine with no noises.. No smoke.. No shreaking from my belt. At the repair shop they started too and same result and said it sounded normal.

Obviously I explained everything as I did with you all and they said they'd check the water pump and other relevant areas to find the root of any issues. Again as I said earlier I'll keep everyone in the loop of what they find.. Probably by this evening from what I was told.
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Old 11-19-2014, 01:01 PM
 
Location: UpstateNY
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Holy Cow, psur, go out and buy a lottery ticket. NOW.
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Old 11-19-2014, 01:03 PM
 
Location: Connecticut
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Chances of cracking the block from water freezing is slim. Ever motor had freeze plugs in it to prevent this. They allow for fluid expansion and pop out if it get pressure from freezing.
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Old 11-19-2014, 01:43 PM
 
Location: Ashburn, VA
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My fingers are certainly crossed for a best case scenario verdict...

Again.. Can't thank you all enough. You've all been so amazing with your input.
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Old 11-19-2014, 02:09 PM
 
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Ask them to find out why the coolant leaked in the first place while they are there. That was your issue.

Likely, the water froze and the belt slipped on the water pump because it wasn't moving.

Glad to see everything is sorta normal.
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Old 11-19-2014, 07:14 PM
 
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Chances of cracking the block from water freezing is slim. Ever motor had freeze plugs in it to prevent this. They allow for fluid expansion and pop out if it get pressure from freezing.
"Freeze plugs" are actually core plugs. The holes they plug are part of the casting process.

I've seen many a block cracked by freezing and the core plugs never budged. Or some plugs popped out and the block still cracked.
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