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Old 11-21-2014, 03:21 PM
 
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Hey Guys Ive seen some detail questions on here, but no specific topic for it. But I was wondering, any of you that know how to buff without swirl marks?

I use a soft finishing pad, and some light polish and baby it as much as I can (after a heavier compound or if the paints new it doesnt need much more cleaning) I still see swirl marks, barely visible they are still there. I read that some guys will barely put any pressure on the section when they are buffing, and do very low RPMs on the buffer. I stay around 1200 a minute and use a clean, soft pad everytime. Any other tricks to get those marks minimized? thank you
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Old 11-22-2014, 02:29 PM
 
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Use a random orbital buffer instead. Master that before messing with a rotary.
I use a heavy cut + medium pad then a brisk light cut + non cutting pad to jewel the paint. I've taken really bad paint (corvette paint for example) and made it absolutely flawless using no fillers.

of course, washing the car brings new swirl marks and micromarring in...
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Old 11-22-2014, 04:13 PM
 
Location: Central Texas
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What is a "soft finishing pad" ?

#1 thing for most is to use a random orbital, not a rotary.

#2 is to use the right pad

#3 is to use the right product

If the OP sees swirl marks - it could be that there were already there and he hasn't removed them. Or he is creating them.

I use a Porter Cable 7424x polisher. And I use either the yellow or orange Lake Country foam pads. My normal product is Meguiars Ultimate compound, which has proven to be safe but capable of medium surface improvement.
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Old 11-22-2014, 05:46 PM
 
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Also when you do this use a little bit of corn starch or baby powder and it will take the swirl marks away...
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Old 11-24-2014, 07:33 AM
 
Location: Montgomery County, PA
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I have always been wary of those buffers. I am afraid I might “burn” the paint. Why do we need a gadget for every little job? Just rub it in and wipe it off.
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Old 11-24-2014, 08:28 AM
 
Location: Cape Cod
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I have always been wary of those buffers. I am afraid I might “burn” the paint. Why do we need a gadget for every little job? Just rub it in and wipe it off.


I agree Happyrider unless the paint is in such bad shape that it needs more than just elbow grease.

A buffer can do more damage than good if you don't know how to use it.
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Old 11-27-2014, 08:54 PM
 
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Happened again today. I'll have to use my porter cable more as a step 2 after or just heavier compound and one step it
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Old 11-27-2014, 09:27 PM
 
Location: Sarasota FL
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Dupont has a swirl removal product. Can't remember the name but it's sold in 1 gal can, pink liquid. Available at automotive paint supply store.
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Old 11-29-2014, 11:42 AM
 
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I know how to professionally detail cars and have never used a rotary buffer - hand waxing is the way to go if you don't want to damage the paint. There's a ton of great Youtube videos on how to properly detail an automobile and none of the people I've seen or known who do high end vehicles for a living use machines.
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Old 11-29-2014, 12:13 PM
 
Location: West Texas
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3M Perfect-It Machine Polish Swirl Mark Remover and a Dual Action polisher. No swirl marks with black finishes.
3M polish can be bought at body shop supplier for $30. If you don't have a DA or can't afford a pro DA, Harbor Freight has one for around $50, and it's surprisingly good.

Don't use products containing silicone. Your polish job will look great until you wash the car and the silicone washes off. Then the swirl marks will reappear.
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