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Old 12-06-2014, 07:12 PM
 
Location: Niagara Region
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My friend has a new Veloster Turbo and she let me drive it home tonight, however, she got annoyed with me when I didn't shift from 3rd into 4th gear at 1800 RPM driving about 40 mph. I told her it could be ridden into 3,000 RPM easily before needing to shift and she point to some arrows on the dashboard that tell you how to shift.. Also we were approaching a corner and I was getting ready to slow down.

She is still upset at me and maintains her car is different because it has 6 gears and you're supposed to ride around city streets in 5th.

I've driven a manual shift car for about 40 years. I've never driven a 'sports car' before. Am I wrong?
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Old 12-06-2014, 07:42 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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Am I wrong?
No.
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Old 12-06-2014, 11:29 PM
 
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1800 in 5th. Jesus that's gotta have no pick up. How are you not bogging down at that rpm/gear selection? Do you even have any pick up and go?
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Old 12-07-2014, 04:01 AM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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The car is turbocharged so low end torque probably isn't a problem but I still wouldn't shift quite so early.
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Old 12-07-2014, 04:17 AM
 
Location: West Los Angeles
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The car is turbocharged so low end torque probably isn't a problem but I still wouldn't shift quite so early.
Even with turbo, if the car has four cylinders low end torque can be quite modest.
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Old 12-07-2014, 07:02 AM
 
Location: North Port, Florida
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I think those shift arrows are "suggested" points which would maximize fuel efficiency.

I have really never used them.....or even found them to be particularly helpful.

Mikey
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Old 12-07-2014, 11:38 AM
 
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The arrows are just for fuel efficiency. If you try to keep it at 1800 rpm going up a steep mountain pass, you'll be behind the semi trucks going 30 mph.
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Old 12-07-2014, 11:50 AM
 
Location: Texas
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I wouldn't drive at such a low RPM. The VT's have had problems with LSPI. Or "Low Speed Pre Ignition" that have blown their blocks.

Google it.

The easiest way to avoid this is to avoid going to too high a gear when at low speeds, and downshifting once, maybe even twice when accelerating from cruising speed. That tiny turbo will go into boost if you push it try to push it from a low speed in a high gear, but that torque at such a low speed is not good for your rods.

I cruise between 2700-2000 rpm's in my turbo car. Never below 2k.
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Old 12-07-2014, 11:53 AM
 
Location: Funkotron, MA
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As long as you let the engine properly warm up and you're not bouncing off the rev-limiter, you really aren't doing any damage to the engine.

In fact, you could argue that it's worse to lug the car around in 5th gear at 40 MPH if there's not a lot of torque available.
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Old 12-07-2014, 11:58 AM
 
Location: Texas
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As long as you let the engine properly warm up and you're not bouncing off the rev-limiter, you really aren't doing any damage to the engine.

In fact, you could argue that it's worse to lug the car around in 5th gear at 40 MPH if there's not a lot of torque available.
That's just it, the VT is at peak torque from 1750-4000rpm. It'll still go if you push it in 5th@40, but it's better for the engine (and response) if they downshift.
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