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Yeah I did some intake and exhaust work on a pickup, it leaned it out to much and lost power, I dded a chip to richen it but I never saw any differance, My current truck is stock and It will stay that way.
Glad you figured it out. There are lots of aftermarket products that don't do anything at all. Seems like you went through that experience.
Oil/air filters just do what they do. They do not last forever and they do not add any horsepower to the engine. As stated above, unless you are are have a high end performance rig, stick to OE parts.
With all respect, with 20 years of experience in the business you should know better than that. The information you provided above is misleading. Plain and simple, your claims are innacurate. The ONLY way to increase airflow is by forced induction, installing a supercharger and/or turbo. I am sorry, but no air filter has the capacity to increase horse power on its own. I am wondering how many thousands of people have bought those K&N filters believing a miracle would happen to rigs
There are ONLY two things that can be proven about K&N intakes and air filters:
1. Yes, they are washable. You save $$$$ by not having to buy new filters.
2. They look cool and add a very nice detail to the engine bay.
I guess you missed my point. I already said that I have friends who have taken their race rigs to a dyno (one RX-7 and two mustangs) after installing their K&N filters and they found that the claims from K&N are not true. They DID NOT gain the horse power K&N claims.
a drop in filter may not add many or any hp, but there are plenty CAI kits that have been dyno proven. some of course are more "proven" than others shall we say; for every one that actually works there's 10 on the market that do nothing. for instance i recall reading a magazine test a few years back which dyno tested, back to back, several CAI's and short ram's on an RSX-S. on the same dyno, same day the peak hp increase ranged from 6 to 20 at the wheels making the best performer adding better than 10% horsepower
and if you really want to nitpick there's plenty of ways to increase airflow without forced induction. port/polish, valve job, ECU reprogramming, etc etc. if you think there's no way to increase power short of FI then you're either a fool or have been putting the wrong parts on the wrong cars.
...if you really want to nitpick there's plenty of ways to increase airflow without forced induction. port/polish, valve job, ECU reprogramming, etc etc. if you think there's no way to increase power short of FI then you're either a fool or have been putting the wrong parts on the wrong cars.
Of course, and I agree with you. There are many ways to increase power. I was just pointing out that oil/air filters don't have the capacity to do that.
You can do porting, valve jobs and get whatever computer chips for your ECU. Still, you should know that a supercharger and/or turbo will expand the lungs of your rig out of the box and fairly close to what the manufacturer claims.
Any other internal modification to the engine is a completely different subject.
And since you got off subject....for normal street driving, people should stick to OE filters.
well i can agree on that OEM oil filters for the win
By the way, my friend had some serious porting done in his rotary engine. I had no idea you could play with those engines that much. Unfortunately, they are high maintenance engines. But i tell you, it is amazing how much power he could get out of that little engine with some porting.
Does anyone remember the Frantz toilet tissue 2 ply oil filter of the late 50's ? You would only have to remove the old roll and install a new roll plus a qt of oil and your engine would be honey colored clean. My dad had a repair shop and a salesman came by and sold my dad a unit adapter for his cadillac. He turned me on to it and it worked beautiful on my 54 Cpe de Ville for over 3-1/2 yrs. I never drained the crankcase or pulled the drain plug all that time. I let it go with the car on trade in for another Cad. but could never find another replacement unit on the mkt. Saw a used unit at Pomona Antique Swap meet one time. My policy was to change the tissue each 1000 miles. Anyone remember this filter? Any comments regarding same item? Steve
Does anyone remember the Frantz toilet tissue 2 ply oil filter of the late 50's ? You would only have to remove the old roll and install a new roll plus a qt of oil and your engine would be honey colored clean. My dad had a repair shop and a salesman came by and sold my dad a unit adapter for his cadillac. He turned me on to it and it worked beautiful on my 54 Cpe de Ville for over 3-1/2 yrs. I never drained the crankcase or pulled the drain plug all that time. I let it go with the car on trade in for another Cad. but could never find another replacement unit on the mkt. Saw a used unit at Pomona Antique Swap meet one time. My policy was to change the tissue each 1000 miles. Anyone remember this filter? Any comments regarding same item? Steve
Go to Frantz Filters Manufactured by We Filter It! Inc - Oil, Diesel and Gas Filters (http://www.wefilterit.com/index.htm - broken link). I do remember hearing about them in the sixties, but don't think I ever saw one on a car. They make some pretty strong statements about their product. I have used remote filters in the past but it's still a spin on media type.
In the 50's Cadillac had a oil filter housing up high away from the engine. You had to unscrew the cover to remove the regular filter. Frantz had a canister that you forced the tissue into and placed it inside the regular original housing and replaced the cover. It was a real easy process. I believe that they never had enough models to fit various cars at that time. It was expensive at the time but very cheap over the long haul. Steve
In the 50's Cadillac had a oil filter housing up high away from the engine. You had to unscrew the cover to remove the regular filter. Frantz had a canister that you forced the tissue into and placed it inside the regular original housing and replaced the cover. It was a real easy process. I believe that they never had enough models to fit various cars at that time. It was expensive at the time but very cheap over the long haul. Steve
I can understand why a product like this is not longer available. Many cars from the 50s had huge engine compartments with lots of open space around the engine, along the inside of the fenders and the firewall. You could almost stand between the side of the engine and the fenders! Today of course, things have changed. The typical engine compartment is so tightly packed, it is hard to reach a hand or arm anywhere around the compartment and every square inch of the firewall and fender area is blocked by something.
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