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Old 03-20-2015, 08:53 PM
 
Location: Midwest
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That's quite offensive!
I meant no offense to you. I was saying that the whole design BS is ridiculous.

Thank you for providing the info!

On the bright side, there are still a few vehicles which have decent visibility. Buy a Jeep Wrangler and remove the doors and soft top.
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Old 03-20-2015, 09:56 PM
 
Location: San 'Tone
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I can't stand these newer designs. I guess there has to be a trade off and i can see it being done for safety purposes and aerodynamics but as someone else mentioned there seems to be more of a risk in hitting something in reverse now.
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Late 60's/early 70's Mustang Fastback, Javelin/AMX, Corvette, Muira.... I'm looking at you! But back in those days, it didn't much matter what was behind you, about to be disappearing in the rear view. "Buh-bye now...."

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I meant no offense to you. I was saying that the whole design BS is ridiculous.

Thank you for providing the info!

On the bright side, there are still a few vehicles which have decent visibility. Buy a Jeep Wrangler and remove the doors and soft top.
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My current ride, actually. IMO, the ultimate see-it-all, do-it-all, conquer-it-all vehicle. Granted, it doesn't have the comfort, efficiency, or safety of your new Mazda, but I just can't feel comfortable in the typical passenger sedan. Too many big truck and truck based SUVs on the road. Especially here in Texas.

I've been a car guy my whole life. Both passion and career. Driven vehicles counting in the thousands. Like you, I just can't get on board with modern vehicle design. The passion is nearly lost. Function has nearly consumed form. Is what it is I guess. Lament for the good old days, for they are all but fading. Between efficiency and safety regulations, we're not going to see a whole lot of inspired coachwork in the years to come.
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Old 03-20-2015, 10:51 PM
 
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I'm in new auto 'research mode' and I find this trend to be making my choices very restricted. I was at recent large national auto show and only 8 vehicles (not counting pickups and large suvs) that had decent sight lines as well as accommodate a taller person (6'2).

Jeep and Subaru had a couple each, Kia Soul, Maxda C5 and few others, so disappointing. I bet some manufacturer could make a big hit by designing a slightly de-featured base model small SUV / crossover with high visibility in older style. I guess the closest is the Soul or entry level Jeep (tin can).
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Old 03-21-2015, 07:49 AM
 
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I like the older car better. My car takes me from point A to point B with whatever stuff I want to transport.
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Old 03-21-2015, 03:25 PM
 
Location: Northridge/Porter Ranch, Calif.
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Yes, the visibility on many cars has been quite bad for years now.

Years ago, it was easy to buy and drive a car with good visibility. Below are two examples ('69 Cadillac Fleetwood Brougham and '66 Plymouth Fury VIP).





It was also easy to buy and drive a car with a big trunk with a big opening (and low clearance)... '69 Cadillac again:

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Old 03-21-2015, 06:10 PM
 
Location: Midwest
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^^ That's the kind of trunk I'm talking about. The trunk on my 1977 Mercedes is the same way.

Actually though, the trunks on newer cars are just as big, the problem is that the opening is so small, it's barely big enough to fit a box of girl scout cookies through the opening.

Instead of placing things in the trunk, you have to slide them through. This makes it difficult to retrieve things in the back without moving things in the front.

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Old 03-21-2015, 06:35 PM
 
Location: Northridge/Porter Ranch, Calif.
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Yes, the trunk in that red car is a good sample of a mail-slot type of trunk.

I forgot to mention the trunk seen in the photo I posted ('69 Cadillac) has 20-cubic-feet of useable luggage space.
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