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Old 01-19-2008, 06:02 PM
 
Location: Marion, IN
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The OP's actual question is weather or not we as a society are aware of the ecological impact of the vehicles we drive. As a society Americans tend to ignore the environmental footprint of our cars, homes, and lifestyles. The OP believes that we drive cars designed with little regard for our planet.

 
Old 01-19-2008, 06:17 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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The OP's actual question is weather or not we as a society are aware of the ecological impact of the vehicles we drive. As a society Americans tend to ignore the environmental footprint of our cars, homes, and lifestyles. The OP believes that we drive cars designed with little regard for our planet.
And American emission standards have long been more stringent than those in Europe, often considerably more so. The two continents have different approaches to the same goal, so big deal if he doesn't like our approach.

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Old 01-19-2008, 06:17 PM
 
Location: Pinal County, Arizona
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The OP's actual question is weather or not we as a society are aware of the ecological impact of the vehicles we drive. As a society Americans tend to ignore the environmental footprint of our cars, homes, and lifestyles. The OP believes that we drive cars designed with little regard for our planet.
I'm sorry but, personally, I don't buy into the "environmental footprint" thing -

My vehicles suit our desires, and our needs. My concern is with mine, and my families safety when driving and our comfort.

Gas mileage is a secondary issue to me - anything over 20mpg in town is fine.
 
Old 01-19-2008, 07:39 PM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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Then let me repeat once again: They are not intended for freeway cruising. They are intended for dense urban markets.



Are we clear on that yet?
Using your reasoning; such cars should be legal for use only where street licensed golf carts here in the Phx area------our speed limits are oftentimes 45 MPH on the main line surface streets.
 
Old 01-19-2008, 08:01 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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Using your reasoning; such cars should be legal for use only where street licensed golf carts here in the Phx area------our speed limits are oftentimes 45 MPH on the main line surface streets.
I'm sorry, but I don't see how my reasoning -- which wasn't really "reasoning" at all but simply stating what this car's target market is by their own admission -- possibly leads to any such conclusion. You want to use it primarily for driving it on interstates at full interstate speeds, you're welcome to do it. But that's not the use they're marketing it for.
 
Old 01-19-2008, 08:54 PM
 
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BMW has never made a production V6. Ever.
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Uhhhh.......
they make straight 6's.
 
Old 01-19-2008, 08:56 PM
 
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The OP's actual question is weather or not we as a society are aware of the ecological impact of the vehicles we drive. As a society Americans tend to ignore the environmental footprint of our cars, homes, and lifestyles. The OP believes that we drive cars designed with little regard for our planet.
It seems to me that the OP is just demanding that we drive more eco friendly cars. His hostility leads me to believe that he already knows that we are aware of the impact of our gas guzzling vehicles.
 
Old 01-19-2008, 08:59 PM
 
Location: southern california
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worst i had - honda civic

best i had - ford escort
 
Old 01-19-2008, 09:29 PM
 
Location: Southern Arizona
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Sorry, MJay . . . I've gotta disagree with you on this one.

I love my big General Motors 6.0L V8 with 400 Horsepower. I would much rather cut my driving in half in order to save than to cut the performance and size of the vehicle in half.

MY TWO CENTS WORTH
 
Old 01-19-2008, 09:50 PM
 
Location: The Big D
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The day that this country FORCES us as FREE Americans to drive.......... BUY only a certain size vehicle is the day I'll be fighting mad and will join the revolt to overthrow the government. First it will be limiting the size of cars/trucks that can be manufactured and sold here (JOBS would be lost too by more Americans). Then we can look for the size of homes to be restricted and what materials can be used. Next would be the clothing we coudl purchase. Colored yarns/cottons/threads/materials are harmful to the environment so only gray or a natural white from cotton or silk would be allowed. Oops, better watch the cotton planted, grown, harvested and used. I'm sure there are PLENTY of things done just to turn that seed into a real garment from the tractor trailer that delivers the seed to the store to be bought to the farm equipment used, trailer to transport to market, all of those plants that people work at to turn it into a product that can be made into clothing, the manufacturing of the clothes, the trucks to transport the final goods to a retailer.... GOSH look at all of that pollution. Better stop producing cotton right now. Everyone get your fig leaf out.

Sorry, but there is NO ONE that is going to tell me what type and size car or truck I can BUY with MY OWN MONEY!

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