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Old 07-21-2015, 04:00 PM
 
Location: rain city
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Hackers Remotely Kill A Jeep On The Highway

"The Jeep’s strange behavior wasn’t entirely unexpected. I’d come to St. Louis to be Miller and Valasek’s digital crash-test dummy, a willing subject on whom they could test the car-hacking research they’d been doing over the past year. The result of their work was a hacking technique—what the security industry calls a zero-day exploit—that can target Jeep Cherokees and give the attacker wireless control, via the Internet, to any of thousands of vehicles. Their code is an automaker’s nightmare: software that lets hackers send commands through the Jeep’s entertainment system to its dashboard functions, steering, brakes, and transmission, all from a laptop that may be across the country."

Read the rest, this is by no means limited to Jeep:
Hackers Remotely Kill a Jeep on the Highway



And here is an interesting discussion of the auto/computer tech problem on Reddit -
https://www.reddit.com/r/technology/...n_the_highway/
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Old 07-21-2015, 04:12 PM
 
Location: San Antonio, TX USA
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Hackers Remotely Kill Jeep on the Highway
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Old 07-22-2015, 09:52 AM
 
Location: Wichita Falls Texas
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I'm going to make a killing renting my 70-79 cars. Only way to stop them is spike strips, a ditch, or a bullet! Oh yeah, I sense a new opportunity.
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Old 01-13-2016, 09:41 AM
 
Location: U.S.A.
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Old topic, but writing on the wall nonetheless. What are the purported needs for having the PCM and BCM connected to external communications hardware? Under what guise is this technology being pushed forward? These systems should be isolated from each other as they have been for 100+ years. This is a completely unnecessary and potentially dangerous (as evidenced) feature of vehicles.


Possible, alleged uses for having the link: "Quick and easy" updates to PCM/BCM software or overall monitoring to be used as "feedback for continual product improvement" or data collection in order to "develop methods and practices to further reduce negative impact of emissions on the environment" or I'm certain there is some save-the-children reasoning; "[Vehicle Mfg.] strives to continually and vigorously improve upon the safety of our product and with these features we are now equipped to know, first hand, in all of our products, where we fall short."
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Old 01-13-2016, 11:22 AM
 
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Yeah, it's all about
1. data collection
2. know everything about our product (and those inside of it)
3. CONTROL

Just like pixels on displays now called money. You have them now - puff, gone next moment.
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Old 01-15-2016, 08:12 AM
 
Location: East of Seattle since 1992, 615' Elevation, Zone 8b - originally from SF Bay Area
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This is the reason I looked for a car (Challenger) that has only AM/FM/CD/Aux rather than the info-tainment system. If I need navigation I'll use the phone app.
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Old 01-15-2016, 09:36 AM
 
Location: Sinking in the Great Salt Lake
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Get a Wrangler... The infotainment center is not tied into vehicle functions.

Or, get a car with manual transmission... if hackers taking control of your vehicle is a big problem in your life, it's a easy defeat; just shift to neutral, stop and stall the car out.
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Old 01-16-2016, 10:04 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Or you can buy a car....any car, and not have the issue. The Jeep was programmed to accept the commands remotely. The car must be programmed to accept the commands or it doesn't work. It also doesn't work with the brakes or the ignition key so IF you are dumb enough to let someone program your car to accept remote commands, all you have to do is hit the key, turn off the engine, hit the brakes. The entire event was to see IF the cars of today COULD be programmed. As with the Jeep, it was programmed thru the phone system. Turn off your Bluetooth and you've eliminated anybody even doing it with your approval.
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