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View Poll Results: Aluminum versus Steel
Aluminum is better. 20 39.22%
Steel is better. 11 21.57%
Don't know if either is better. 11 21.57%
Don't care. 9 17.65%
Voters: 51. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 09-25-2015, 03:46 PM
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Location: The Sand Hills of NC
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[quote=iTsLiKeAnEgG;41334246]Just an FYI, bear cages are typically made out of aluminum.

Chevy's Anti-Aluminum Truck Ads Are Bull****[/Q

I always thought shark cages were built out of aluminum also.

I'm confused I was gonna buy a Chevy in case of a bear attack and a Ford in case of a shark attack?

Now it looks like the Ford will hold back both a bear and a shark.

Thanks to the internet I will only need one truck.
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Old 09-25-2015, 10:54 PM
 
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GM has never been rewarded for being first to market: Corvair, Aztek, Etc.
What are you talking about they have Corvette the first American made sports car and the suburban.
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Old 09-26-2015, 06:46 PM
 
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What are you talking about they have Corvette the first American made sports car and the suburban.

Well technically, the Kaiser-Darrin prototype (also fiberglass) was unveiled two months before the Corvette....but Corvette beat the Darrin to the showrooms by a few months. I think they were both inspired by the 1949 Nash-Healey, but that car was not 100% American (joint venture with the Brits).

The Darrin was a cool car....the doors were not hinged, they slid forward into the front fenders.
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Old 09-28-2015, 06:28 AM
 
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GM was to make it first but passed it to Ford.
How is this? I don't think they passed anything to anyone that could have been an advantage to obtain the weight loss. Most reports indicate that GM was too afraid to invest the money and didn't have a plan for recovering the money like Ford put together.
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Old 09-28-2015, 05:53 PM
 
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How is this? I don't think they passed anything to anyone that could have been an advantage to obtain the weight loss. Most reports indicate that GM was too afraid to invest the money and didn't have a plan for recovering the money like Ford put together.
Because GM was going through its restructuring they were going to build it first, so Ford took it on. Now that GM is making money again they are going to build their aluminum trucks starting in 2017 that's part of their Flint assembly plant.
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Old 09-28-2015, 06:34 PM
 
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Hell let's talk about fiberglass.. Essentially it is fibers from glass cloth but when combined with resin it becomes hard as hell.. So aluminum will not be any different....
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Old 09-28-2015, 07:03 PM
 
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Hell let's talk about fiberglass.. Essentially it is fibers from glass cloth but when combined with resin it becomes hard as hell.. So aluminum will not be any different....
For one thing you cannot make fiberglass panels faster than you can stamp them out on a press. When you are talking assembly line you are talking up to 55 trucks an hour that's what Chrysler was putting out when I worked at their Warren Truck Assembly plant we made Ram pickups. Fiberglass could never be used in that speed of witch they are made.
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Old 09-28-2015, 10:17 PM
 
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For one thing you cannot make fiberglass panels faster than you can stamp them out on a press. When you are talking assembly line you are talking up to 55 trucks an hour that's what Chrysler was putting out when I worked at their Warren Truck Assembly plant we made Ram pickups. Fiberglass could never be used in that speed of witch they are made.
NO..I am talking about strength..... Not time to build.. If you can have fiberglass bodies last for years, aluminum will do as well.. or better...
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Old 09-28-2015, 10:26 PM
 
Location: San Jose, CA
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Aluminum will be OK below the Mason/Dixon Line where they do not salt the roads in winter. Road salt eats up steel. It will be even worse on Aluminum.
Aluminum does corrode. However, aluminum oxide is one of the hardest materials known to man and actually protects the aluminum underneath from further corrosion. That's why it has been used in airplanes almost since the beginning.
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Old 09-29-2015, 06:15 AM
 
Location: Raleigh
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Remember that silly commercial when in a few years Chevy and GMC trucks are also made of aluminum.
Yep, like the Ford Fully Boxed Frame...Even though the F150 had a fully boxed frame, the F250 and up didn't (and neither did the Tundra, which was the point.)
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NO..I am talking about strength..... Not time to build.. If you can have fiberglass bodies last for years, aluminum will do as well.. or better...
Well, Chevy makes around 37K Corvettes a year, and they charge a premium for them. Speed of production isn't as important. Ford has to be worried about build speed; it directly affects cost, and on your number 1 selling vehicle, Cost to build and sell are a huge deal.
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