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Old 10-22-2015, 09:55 PM
 
Location: NYC
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Buick and Kia overtakes Honda!? Audi jumps to the top 3!?

VW made some progress but still below avg.

Omg, Ford is horrendous and people keep touting how improved they are.
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Old 10-22-2015, 10:11 PM
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Location: Tucson, AZ
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Wow, Chrysler and associated brands just can't make a good car no matter who owns them.

Mercedes-Benz has fallen quite far.
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Old 10-22-2015, 10:18 PM
 
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Yeah Hyundai/Kia are essentially the Honda/Toyota of 20-30 years ago. They have really turned a corner.

Acura really fell far.

But like I said in the other thread one of the top complaints these days is just about the audio system. I have a hard time calling that a reliability issue. Ford is especially plagued by their myford touch models.

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Old 10-22-2015, 10:20 PM
 
Location: Sinking in the Great Salt Lake
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Jeep has 7 models (well, 6 1/2 if you consider the 2 door and 4 door Wrangler as the same model ) not 4... wonder which better performing models Consumer Reports took out of the equation so they could continue to take their regular $hites on the brand?
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Old 10-23-2015, 12:18 AM
 
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I've always bought Buick's, my question is how do they outclass other GM brands? It's not like there is any difference in major components.
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Old 10-23-2015, 12:19 AM
 
Location: Vallejo
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Yeah Hyundai/Kia are essentially the Honda/Toyota of 20-30 years ago. They have really turned a corner.

Acura really fell far.

But like I said in the other thread one of the top complaints these days is just about the audio system. I have a hard time calling that a reliability issue. Ford is especially plagued by their myford touch models.
Sort of. They're not consistent though, much like Ford which makes some very good cars and then some that are as junky as what Chrysler puts out. They're not all over the place though like Ford at least but still put out some junk (Hyundai). Interesting that Kia is better there. Acura is wtf. GM still doesn't make good cars, no surprise there. Go Mazda as well. Also I'm a closet Audi fan, but I'll wait until this new supposedly reliable Audi is 8-10 years old and see how it's fairing with the electronic stuff. Got burned by that with VW once and I'm not jumping on that ship again.

While I agree with you that Cue/Ford Touch aren't really reliability issues, they'd still be reasons I wouldn't buy their products. Just put a $80 Android tablet in the car. like Mercedes does on the CLA and call it a day. Not that great a car, looks stupid, works fine though.
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Old 10-23-2015, 12:26 AM
 
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GM still doesn't make good cars, no surprise there.
Buick of course is GM and this is no anomaly because they are always near the top of these lists.
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Old 10-23-2015, 12:46 AM
 
Location: Vallejo
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Fair enough, but it's Buick. Just get a Toyota. Buick is possibly the only brand that's even more boring. Test drove the Lacrosse last year with my mom, all the while giving her grief for it, what a boat. It had comfortable seats though... really comfortable seats. If I wanted to park my car in my living room and have comfortable seats, it'd probably be a Buick. Even better than Volvo seats. That's also surprising as GM generally can't make good seats either.
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Old 10-23-2015, 01:09 AM
 
Location: Northridge/Porter Ranch, Calif.
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Fair enough, but it's Buick. Just get a Toyota. Buick is possibly the only brand that's even more boring. Test drove the Lacrosse last year with my mom, all the while giving her grief for it, what a boat. It had comfortable seats though... really comfortable seats. If I wanted to park my car in my living room and have comfortable seats, it'd probably be a Buick. Even better than Volvo seats. That's also surprising as GM generally can't make good seats either.
If you think a 196.9" long Buick is a boat, you should try driving a true full-sized (about 210 inches and longer) car.
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Old 10-23-2015, 07:44 AM
 
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If I wanted to park my car in my living room and have comfortable seats, it'd probably be a Buick.
A friend gets in my back seat and says "This is nicer than the recliner in my living room" LOL

Not sure what's wrong with comfortable seats, I'm not driving a NASCAR race. They could be a little more conforming, most of the cars I sit in I'm waiting for the lap bar to come down and have the attendant say "Enjoy your ride at Six Flags". They are bit too much, if I had a decent sports car I'd want them.
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