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Old 10-27-2015, 07:20 AM
 
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GM recalling 1.4M cars; oil leaks can cause engine fires
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They already "fixed" the problem twice and are trying to fix it again.
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Old 10-27-2015, 08:43 AM
 
Location: Riverside Ca
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Third time is a charm maybe?
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Old 10-27-2015, 09:18 AM
 
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BUT, but, but....i thought the GM 3800 was bullet proof. I guess add (failing valve cover gaskets) to the (failing intake manifold) that causes coolant to leak into the engine and destroy the engine, as reasons why I have avoided that engine. Every 3800 owner I know has had their engine suddenly die and when they explained it it matched the intake manifold problem.
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Old 10-27-2015, 09:59 AM
 
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C'mon, folks. We all have our stake in GM now, after we bailed the great company out. Let's give them more money.
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Old 10-27-2015, 10:10 AM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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I think this is actually the fourth recall for this same issue.
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Old 10-27-2015, 10:22 AM
 
Location: Riverside Ca
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Considering lots of those cars are in junkyards now, the cost probably won't be that high. If I was GM I would offer a cash back incentive if you have one of this cars (say $500 trade in credit) or buy outright. Figure out the total cost of recall as if you were going to repair every car, divide it by the registered cars with the affected engines subject to the recall and offer the least amount possible as a buy back program. (Lots of owners won't receive the notices anyway as the car was sold the new owners did not update ownership records eith manufacturer and wouldn't be getting notices. Then turn around and sell the cars to a junkyard or wholesale metal dealer to recoupe some of the cost. Most of those cars are ready for the scrap heap anyway considering 10-18 year old cars are probably anywhere from 2-3 maybe even 5-6th owner. I bet some owners hope the car does burn down. The insurance claim will be more than a car is worth.
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Old 10-27-2015, 11:03 AM
 
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Narrator: A new car built by my company leaves somewhere traveling at 60 mph. The rear differential locks up. The car crashes and burns with everyone trapped inside. Now, should we initiate a recall? Take the number of vehicles in the field, A, multiply by the probable rate of failure, B, multiply by the average out-of-court settlement, C. A times B times C equals X. If X is less than the cost of a recall, we don't do one.
Business woman on plane: Are there a lot of these kinds of accidents?
Narrator: You wouldn't believe.
Business woman on plane: Which car company do you work for?
Narrator: A major one.



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It's not a question of giving people a bit of slack to buy another piece of crap. It's question of why in the world those companies are still around. That is the real question.
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Old 10-27-2015, 02:26 PM
 
Location: Pikesville, MD
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Since all car companies do that calculation, the real question is, why do we have car companies?

Oh, yeah, we can't eliminate all risk from the human experience.
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Old 10-27-2015, 03:03 PM
 
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Considering lots of those cars are in junkyards now, the cost probably won't be that high. If I was GM I would offer a cash back incentive if you have one of this cars (say $500 trade in credit) or buy outright. Figure out the total cost of recall as if you were going to repair every car, divide it by the registered cars with the affected engines subject to the recall and offer the least amount possible as a buy back program. (Lots of owners won't receive the notices anyway as the car was sold the new owners did not update ownership records eith manufacturer and wouldn't be getting notices. Then turn around and sell the cars to a junkyard or wholesale metal dealer to recoupe some of the cost. Most of those cars are ready for the scrap heap anyway considering 10-18 year old cars are probably anywhere from 2-3 maybe even 5-6th owner. I bet some owners hope the car does burn down. The insurance claim will be more than a car is worth.
And if the engine didnt send the car to the junkyard, the transmission probably did after 150K.
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Old 10-27-2015, 05:15 PM
 
Location: Montgomery County, PA
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The valve cover in a 1998 car leaks oil? I am shocked. Why is it even the manufacturer responsibility? Hey, I have a 98 Explorer with 170,000 miles on it. Would love to have the valve cover gasket fixed free.
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