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Old 11-01-2015, 09:10 AM
 
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When FIAT took over Chrysler, FIAT and its other brands (Alfa Romeo & Lancia) seemed to have a wider diversity of products to offer besides the FIAT 500. To promote the merger they debuted a beautiful Lancia Delta dressed up in a Chrysler suit. Now Lancia is almost totally disappeared, relegated to Italy only. FIAT has plenty of cars but they are nothing more than different flavors of the FIAT 500. Where is the small, light weight, fuel efficient, and fun to drive Chrysler/Dodge based upon FIAT platforms? The Dodge Dart is too big an heavy to compete in its class. And now Chrysler isn't being sold in Europe anymore, not that they sold well there before. Where's the new products? Where's the upside for Chrysler/Dodge?
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Old 11-01-2015, 09:18 AM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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My guess is the cost of certifying/supporting different models for US sales may be a large consideration. FIAT didn't exactly do themselves proud during their last US tour and I'd think they feel they have a better shot with something a bit 'kitschy' like the 500 than trying to go head to head with more mainstream cars, at least until they can establish a bit of a decent reputation.
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Old 11-01-2015, 09:39 AM
 
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They've only got one car here in different versions and yet they are at the bottom of reliability ratings. I would not be surprised if the Fiat make gets pulled from the US market within a few years.

The "it's a Jeep thing" folks will likely keep that brand alive for a long time. Dodge/Chrysler though are definitely in trouble. I don't know how long the market will let them continue to struggle with quality.
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Old 11-01-2015, 11:28 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Those Fiats are way overpriced for what you're getting. $16k for a base model 1.4 naturally aspirated engine with no real room for passengers. They need to knock 6k off that price tag.
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Old 11-01-2015, 03:28 PM
 
Location: San Antonio, Tx
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From what I understand there are 2 Alfa Romeo models slated for the US. The 4C and the Giulia
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Old 11-01-2015, 03:29 PM
 
Location: San Antonio, Tx
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They've only got one car here in different versions and yet they are at the bottom of reliability ratings. I would not be surprised if the Fiat make gets pulled from the US market within a few years.

The "it's a Jeep thing" folks will likely keep that brand alive for a long time. Dodge/Chrysler though are definitely in trouble. I don't know how long the market will let them continue to struggle with quality.
<shrug> my '15 300 is rock solid. Not sure about the quality struggles.
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Old 11-01-2015, 03:32 PM
 
Location: San Antonio, Tx
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Those Fiats are way overpriced for what you're getting. $16k for a base model 1.4 naturally aspirated engine with no real room for passengers. They need to knock 6k off that price tag.
Perfect example of someone just buying into the hype. A comparably equipped Nissan Sentra (picked a model at random) is the same price. Guess we need to lop $6K off that price too - because there are tons of $8K new cars out there.
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Old 11-01-2015, 03:39 PM
 
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<shrug> my '15 300 is rock solid. Not sure about the quality struggles.
Well I would certainly hope a brand new car isn't having issues. But the Fiat/Chrysler brands are just dominating the bottom of reliability rankings.
http://www.city-data.com/forum/autom...liability.html
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Old 11-01-2015, 06:14 PM
 
Location: Montgomery County, PA
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Perfect example of someone just buying into the hype. A comparably equipped Nissan Sentra (picked a model at random) is the same price. Guess we need to lop $6K off that price too - because there are tons of $8K new cars out there.
The ’16 Sentra is a far more substantial car than the 500. It has grown big and looks much better than even the Corolla. Fiat 500 is best suited to a circus.
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Old 11-01-2015, 07:24 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Fiat will be history in 5 years or less. They are in financial hurts these days. They were pushing hard for a merger with GM to save the company but it didn't fly. With the reputation they have producing crap autos it's a matter of time and it'll be a bad bump in the history of the automobile. Too Bad too. Ram has started making some decent trucks and they probably will go down with the rest of the Chrysler bunch. Had Ram been left alone they could have been giving Ford a run for their money in the light truck segment but I doubt they get the opportunity. Since Daimler all but raped the company when they left with all of the cash, I'm surprised they've actually lasted this long.
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