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Old 11-11-2015, 08:02 PM
 
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1. Characterless, drab, boring styling
2. Too complex for the average person/enthusiast to work on without going to the dealer
3. Distracting infotainment systems
4. Lack of manual transmission availability
5. High belt lines contributing to lack of visibility
6. Lack of real materials

I could probably think of more.
Step away from the Japanese imports. No more style than a Walmart refrigerator.
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Old 11-11-2015, 09:04 PM
 
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You think this handles like a giant boat?



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You think that handles better than this?
Check and Mate!
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Old 11-11-2015, 09:10 PM
 
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Certainly it would perform better, maybe even beat it on a track.. but handling is subjective and is psychological as much as anything. No Taurus will ever make the hairs stand up on my head.
Because you don't have the thrill of imminent death driving the Taurus.
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Old 11-11-2015, 09:24 PM
 
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Cars are pretty much cheaper than ever and that big block would be slower than my 4 banger in a family sedan.
I'm pretty sure you've never driven a 1969 charger with a 440 Magnum or 426 Hemi engine. The torque would twist your family sedan into a pretzel.
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Old 11-11-2015, 09:29 PM
 
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No, they usually traded them in because it was the "in" thing to do. To keep up with styling and other changes.

When I took ownership of my used 1966 Dodge Dart GT V-8, it already had 109,000 miles on it. It still ran like a new car and did so for many years and miles. Did not even need an engine rebuild until 1990 (at 160,000 miles) and only because it was burning too much oil; it still ran fine.

The same thing with my brother's 1966 Plymouth Fury III (318 V-8 engine). Incidentally, back in the 1960s, Chrysler Corp. had a 5-year/50,000 mile warranty.

A few years back, a friend sold his 1966 Cadillac Fleetwood Brougham with 218,000 miles and with the original, non-rebuilt transmission.
Must be nice to be from California. In the 60's and 70's the cars in snow states using road salt were ready for the crusher in 3-4 years. You practically never saw a 10 year old car as a reliable daily driver, now you still find 20 year old cars for sale at car dealers.
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Old 11-11-2015, 10:07 PM
 
Location: Northridge/Porter Ranch, Calif.
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Must be nice to be from California. In the 60's and 70's the cars in snow states using road salt were ready for the crusher in 3-4 years. You practically never saw a 10 year old car as a reliable daily driver, now you still find 20 year old cars for sale at car dealers.
I have a feeling, even now, there are quite a few '60s and '70s cars in the snow states. I know for a fact that plenty are "alive" and for sale in publications like Hemmings.

One reason new cars don't rust is because they are 90% plastic. Plastic does not rust! However, it is kind of nice to drive around in something that has some actual steel/metal.
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Old 11-11-2015, 10:27 PM
 
Location: Northridge/Porter Ranch, Calif.
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I'm pretty sure you've never driven a 1969 charger with a 440 Magnum or 426 Hemi engine. The torque would twist your family sedan into a pretzel.
That's true. I have a road test from Hemmings Muscle Machines featuring a 1969 Dodge Charger 500 with the 426-Hemi engine.

It had a few basic modifications, such as an aftermarket cam and headers, and it runs a 13.06 @ 106 mph 1/4 mile. 0-60 mph is 4.5 seconds. That is with 3.73 gears; with 4.10s, it runs 12.50 in the 1/4 mile. All this with street tires (no slicks).
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Old 11-11-2015, 10:28 PM
 
Location: mancos
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all my junk is 25 years old and run great no need to replace.I could take my 90 wrangler apart and put it back together in one weekend but it has never broken ever. put a new carb on it cause I bypassed the stupid little computer that ran the old one. would never dream of buying a high tech pile of comuter junk with sensors for even the ashtray lite that will set off the check engine lite and control modules from the motor down to the dam windshield wipers.computer screen where the beer holders should be really?
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Old 11-12-2015, 12:05 AM
 
Location: San Jose, CA
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Because you don't have the thrill of imminent death driving the Taurus.
You only live once! And if you play it safe, you have no great stories to tell..
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Old 11-12-2015, 02:53 AM
 
Location: Aloverton
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What I hate about new cars? You have to buy them from a car dealership, which feels like being dunked in a combination of pond bottom muck, fermented cow manure, slug slime, and rancid bacon grease. Of all the car salesmen I've ever dealt with, about 10% would I stop to apply pressure if they were bleeding out. The rest, not my problem, I'd treat them like they treat their customers.
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