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Old 12-01-2015, 12:39 PM
 
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I am looking for a sedan, crossover or SUV that meets the following criteria (listed in order of importance). Please help me find it.

I am looking to spend less than 40k out the door (MSRP could be well above that).

MUST HAVES:

1. Excellent acceleration (no pickup lag or jerky transmission)
2. Excellent handling (this may exclude all Asian cars...)
3. Excellent stereo (at least 400 watts, at least 9 speakers) and acoustics (I have done aftermarket stereos before and I honestly no longer want to deal with that hassle)
4. Sun/moonroof
5. Backup camera
6. Leather
7. Large infotainment display

OPTIONAL (in other words, I would be willing to pay above 40k if the following were available):

8. Lumbar support
9. Heated seats
10. Power trunk/tailgate door


Do yourself a favor and buy a used Porsche Cayenne Turbo S for $30,000, and bank the $10k for repairs/maintenance.


Porsche Cayenne Turbo 4DR SUV | eBay
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Old 12-01-2015, 12:48 PM
 
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Originally Posted by luxcarseeker View Post
I am looking for a sedan, crossover or SUV that meets the following criteria (listed in order of importance). Please help me find it.

I am looking to spend less than 40k out the door (MSRP could be well above that).

MUST HAVES:

1. Excellent acceleration (no pickup lag or jerky transmission)
2. Excellent handling (this may exclude all Asian cars...)
3. Excellent stereo (at least 400 watts, at least 9 speakers) and acoustics (I have done aftermarket stereos before and I honestly no longer want to deal with that hassle)
4. Sun/moonroof
5. Backup camera
6. Leather
7. Large infotainment display

OPTIONAL (in other words, I would be willing to pay above 40k if the following were available):

8. Lumbar support
9. Heated seats
10. Power trunk/tailgate door
Infiniti Q series sedans new.

Pre owned G Series

And you will erase your point 1 and 2.
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Old 12-01-2015, 02:32 PM
 
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Do yourself a favor and buy a used Porsche Cayenne Turbo S for $30,000, and bank the $10k for repairs/maintenance.


Porsche Cayenne Turbo 4DR SUV | eBay
70 k miles, a 2008 and it's gray pass.
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Old 12-01-2015, 02:43 PM
 
Location: Hougary, Texberta
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Americuh F Yeah!!

Charger Scat Pack

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Old 12-01-2015, 03:59 PM
 
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Instead of snickering, why don't you come up with a suggestion for the OP? With all of the options listed, you won't be able to suggest much under $40k. And I'm assuming you've never driven an Accord V6, which I think is actually over powered, and the handling is excellent compared to other sedans in that price range.
I haven't come up with a suggestion for the OP because they need to at least decide on what style of vehicle they are looking for. With a screen name of "luxcarseeker" I certainly wouldn't bother listing ANYTHING that wasn't a higher end car... which neatly eliminates pretty much any Honda right off the bat, even if points 1 and 2 weren't already enough to do so.

I had some friends who used to drive an Accord. How does that joke go? "My lug nuts require more torque than your engine produces?"
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Old 12-01-2015, 05:06 PM
 
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thanks all for your suggestions, to be honest sedan or SUV does not matter

what matters is the perfect combo of the criteria ilisted

as for handling some SUVs handle better than sedans (for example i think the smaller BMW X SUVs handle better than an accord or camry)

my idea of great handling cars (this is only a partial list of cars i have actually tested):

most BMWs
most Mercedes
Mazda 6
Ford Fusion


sorry but the Honda interiors are a dealbreaker, as is the Honda definition of handling

i am looking for 0-60 times of low 6s (6-6.5)

the subaru interiors are also a dealbreaker and the subaru CVT is just horrendously bad
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Old 12-01-2015, 05:23 PM
 
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Have you seen the new WRX? Their interiors have come a long way but yeah you would definitely want a stick not the cvt, as you would in most vehicles with that sort of performance.

But if that's out I would take a serious look at the VW GTI in autobahn trim or the Golf R.
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Old 12-01-2015, 08:57 PM
 
Location: Poshawa, Ontario
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You're probably the only person on earth who would suggest a Jeep Wrangler to satify someone who wants excellent acceleration and handling.
Unlike you, I actually own one and don't base my opinions on the nonsense published in Consumer Reports.

Based on that and the fact you have offered no suggestions to the OP's original question other than to ridicule other people's posts, I strongly suspect you really don't know dick-all about cars, trucks or SUVs to begin with.

Big surprise there.
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Old 12-01-2015, 09:12 PM
 
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Offroad "handling" sure. But those wranglers put down skidpad numbers in the .6 territory. That does not make for excellent handling. I've driven a few and wouldn't even be comfortable taking a highway ramp at speed much less a weekend auto-x course.
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Old 12-01-2015, 09:31 PM
 
Location: Poshawa, Ontario
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I own a 2014 Jeep Wrangler Unlimited. It has far more power than my Ford F150 with the 4.6 L Triton V8 did when new. Acceleration is fantastic, the ride is smooth and handling is great, especially in snow, mud or off roads. The ride would definitely be rougher in the 2dr model with the shorter wheelbase, but that's the trade off as they are far more effective off road and can go places nothing else can. I don't regularly take mine on the highway, by the I fail to see where your fear of gunning it would come from when I do. It has proved to be an excellent ride whether on the highway, road or trail with plenty of power that eats up anything you throw at it.

I initially looked at a Ford Explorer when I bought the Jeep. The Ford was a gutless POS in comparison. I test drove the Jeep after leaving the Ford dealership and the experience in the Jeep was like night and day.

Maybe you don't like Jeeps, domestics or SUVs in general. That's fine. But regurgitating the garbage written about the Wrangler in Consumer Reports isn't going to make you seem very knowledgeable to those of us that own one.
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