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Old 08-18-2016, 06:52 AM
 
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Are there any automakers that seem to be particularly fond of making E85 ethanol-fueled engines these days (or even in the past for that matter)?
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My GMC Yukon is a 2004 and is an E85 vehicle!
Never have bought it because fuel not available in the east?
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Old 08-18-2016, 07:37 AM
 
Location: Denver
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The greatness is in reducing the amount of money we send to the Saud family to fund world-wide Islamic terrorism. Or is that no longer a concern?
You need to do some basic research on where the US imports the majority of its oil.
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Old 08-18-2016, 07:37 AM
 
Location: Grosse Ile Michigan
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I love ethanol. I get more power out of my car on it than E10 93 octane. It's a great race fuel.
No you don't.

It is a good race fuel if you have a big enough fuel tank.

E85 contains less energy than pure gasoline. Therefore you get less power out of it.

Because it is less explosive (more stable) it has higher octane levels (about 106) and therefore can be used in higher compression engines that might otherwise require expensive racing fuel. However, due to the fact it has less energy, you may have to install a bigger fuel tank (which is initially heavier). You will also need to replace some parts if you are going to run E85, starting with your fuel level sensor. Then you will need to revise your injector cleaning/replacement schedule and your engine rebuild schedule. IF your car will sit for a while, run it empty/near empty and put in some pure gasoline if you can find it, or 10% ethanol with Stabil (or equivalent) added. Do not leave your car sitting for months with E85 in it.
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Old 08-18-2016, 09:08 AM
 
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Just a question, is it OK for farmers and other to clear land, and sell it for housing developments?


Millions of acres, can you provide a link to that information?
7.34 million acres just from 2008-2012.
Cropland expansion outpaces agricultural and biofuel policies in the United States - IOPscience


In addition Brazil is cutting down a million acres of rain forest every year for ethanol production.
Forbes Welcome

The Environmental Costs of Ethanol | NCPA

Corn Ethanol Is Not a Renewable Fuel | EWG


Corn ethanol production for fuel does not make sense in any way. It is simply government lobbying at work.
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Old 08-18-2016, 04:17 PM
 
Location: Texas
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No you don't.

It is a good race fuel if you have a big enough fuel tank.

E85 contains less energy than pure gasoline. Therefore you get less power out of it.

Because it is less explosive (more stable) it has higher octane levels (about 106) and therefore can be used in higher compression engines that might otherwise require expensive racing fuel. However, due to the fact it has less energy, you may have to install a bigger fuel tank (which is initially heavier). You will also need to replace some parts if you are going to run E85, starting with your fuel level sensor. Then you will need to revise your injector cleaning/replacement schedule and your engine rebuild schedule. IF your car will sit for a while, run it empty/near empty and put in some pure gasoline if you can find it, or 10% ethanol with Stabil (or equivalent) added. Do not leave your car sitting for months with E85 in it.
Um, yes I do. Yes, it requires more fuel, but it allows me to run more boost and timing.

You don't seem to know anything about ethanol in regards to performance.

I ran an E40 mix when I was on the stock turbo, and now run an E25 mix now that I upgraded the turbo to free up some injector headroom.

You have the internet at your finger tips, all the tuners are tuning on E85 or some kind of blend because it's cheap and cools the cylinders which keeps knock at bay. There are even gains to be bad on naturally aspirated motors, but forced induction cars see the largest gains.

Here are some old logs to compare. The 93 tune was knock limited, and the E25 tune went on to make 60 more whp more than this graph and the same amount of torque. BTW I've been running higher concentrations of ethanol for over 2 years and about 40k miles with no issues and have made no modifications to my fuel system besides upgrading the high pressure fuel pump.



Here, I've added the graph where my car sits about now, both lines are on E25. This would not be possible with my current hardware without ethanol.


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Old 08-19-2016, 08:32 PM
 
Location: H-town, TX.
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The greatness is in reducing the amount of money we send to the Saud family to fund world-wide Islamic terrorism. Or is that no longer a concern?
Not really. The Saudis blow enough cash in a losing effort trying to buy Hillary into the White House. The White Devil will recoup his money soon enough if they are that reckless.
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