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So many self-adsorbed people here who cannot fathom that these SDCs will be of great benefit to the infirmed, handicapped, elderly, and teens - practically anyone who is more statistically a danger or endangered on the road.
What are they for? To help make life easier for those who need it.
I have multiple disabilities, and I use hand controls to drive. Freedom is not sitting there while something else does the work. Freedom is finding ways to be able to do it myself. Some who have it much worse than I do can learn to drive safely.
I have multiple disabilities, and I use hand controls to drive. Freedom is not sitting there while something else does the work. Freedom is finding ways to be able to do it myself. Some who have it much worse than I do can learn to drive safely.
Good for you. Does that mean the world should not produce technology to make life easier for those who don't share your view or definition of freedom?
To me, "bichin" (talking about the general thread attitude - not your's personally) about how you don't want current technology altered because you enjoy it or have found a way to cope with it, and denying those advancements that help others is very selfish.
This whole thread is an failure in compassion; and technology moves forward no matter hwo much you enjoyed using the old tech. That is something you cannot stop, so you might as well get on board.
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.This whole thread is an failure in compassion; and technology moves forward no matter hwo much you enjoyed using the old tech. That is something you cannot stop, so you might as well get on board.
It has nothing to do with compassion. It's about freedom.
I have no intention of ever getting on board with this.
If you want to get on board, that's fine.
I'm not about to tell you that you have to drive if you can't or just don't want to.
We're all just going to have to share the road. People have been doing this for over 100 years.
When a driverless car can drive as well as a human, then it's welcome to join.
Most people seems to forget that driving is a privilege not a right. You don't have the right to drive, you are licensed to drive and your privilege can be taken away if you disobey the law.
This means that if the government wants to implement a driverless system they can do so in some urban zones they feel that are high pedestrian areas they want to restrict driver operated cars which can be a danger to pedestrians. The perfect example is cities with TRAMs or trolleys that have special tracks or roads that only permitted vehicles can go on.
So in a way many cities have started carving out space for mass transit vehicles and the next step is to allow only autonomous cars to drive on these designated roads.
Good for you. Does that mean the world should not produce technology to make life easier for those who don't share your view or definition of freedom?
That isn't what is being argued. If that was all they were proposing (helping those who need it) that would be fine with me. Instead, they argue to take everyone's freedom away to help those few. (All driverless cars and nothing else). They want to rob me of my freedom that I fought hard to win, to help those who few who can't. That is not an acceptable solution.
That isn't what is being argued. If that was all they were proposing (helping those who need it) that would be fine with me. Instead, they argue to take everyone's freedom away to help those few. (All driverless cars and nothing else). They want to rob me of my freedom that I fought hard to win, to help those who few who can't. That is not an acceptable solution.
Actually it is inevitable. The system will refine until the human participant is no longer acceptable.
However that is all in the long range future. If any of us driving today are still alive when it happens we will be very old.
And maybe we will make an add on kit with a steering wheel and brake pedals for those who wish to continue participating. They won't actually control anything but you can feel like you do...
Sorry...but you are trying too hard. The geography component is not going to be limiting. It is well known how to do that. And it is easily augmented to inch location. The challenges lies in diversity. What to do about a puppy dog at the side of the road...or a flood coming up the road at you...or an instant and stark pea soup fog as you turn a corner with cars coming out of it at you.
I still see two major thrusts...the over the road truck and the high density taxi. Both have the economic payoff needed. And both are easier than the general app.
And it is upon us...not a generation out. Initial reality by 2020 or 2021. And then in rapid volume. The payoff is too great to not jump in. And as the problems are solved they propagate. And can one really refuse to license techniques that save lives? You might try...but if for real the legislature will fix your wagon pretty quick.
There are some great issues. Some claim it can be done without LIDAR...I doubt it but maybe eventually or with some limited version. Or someone breaks through and does LIDAR with no moving parts. All sorts of weird phased arrays have been worked out...why not visible light?
So immense sums available to cure a small subset of problems. Going to be fun. Wish I were 60 again.
The government isn't going to allow it to happen that quickly and it shouldn't. Just because some automobile company wants to introduce this technology doesn't mean it can do it without approval from many agencies.
I support the concept of the self-driving car because it would help the blind and others with disabilities that do not allow them to drive.
I also believe this technology is a huge change and needs to be introduced slowly and gradually. Most of us would oppose doing anything else
I can see in 30+ years (when I'm sure they'll be as perfected and reliable as possible) using the heck out of one. My mom's in her 80s and she's comfortable with streets she knows and businesses she goes to regularly. If she had to go see a specialist in larger city she's not familiar with (like Sacramento 65 miles away) a self-drive car would be a boon for her. When I'm in the situation one day I would love to be able to just plug in my destination and sit back and let a much more capable system than my aging body and mind do the bulk of the driving. Its all about freedom for as long as possible.
The government isn't going to allow it to happen that quickly and it shouldn't. Just because some automobile company wants to introduce this technology doesn't mean it can do it without approval from many agencies.
I support the concept of the self-driving car because it would help the blind and others with disabilities that do not allow them to drive.
I also believe this technology is a huge change and needs to be introduced slowly and gradually. Most of us would oppose doing anything else
Sure it is. That die is already cast. What is going on at present is the building of the statistical data base to demonstrate that the things are safe. Once they have a good story that the autonomous vehicle is two or three or four times safer than a human who is going to turn it down?
The real issues is getting enough data and cost under enough control to launch. Virtually certain within 5 years. And once it launches it collects data in an exponential increasing way. Virtually every vehicle reports. They will have billions of vehicle miles in a few short years.
I expect the numbers will be simply crushing of the human driven vehicles.
They still need a human to sit behind the wheel in case of a problem and to do certain things so what's the point?
Saw a 4 car accident yesterday near where I live.
40mph 4-lane street. Guy in what looked like it used to be an accord rear-ended vehicles stopped at a light. He shoved a full-size SUV into a Caddy hard enough that the back-end of the Caddy was almost bent to the ground and it's hood was popped too.
They carted at least one person off in an ambulance.
The other night a young girl killed a guy on the interstate near here, she was drunk and ran over a guy stopped on the shoulder.
The world is full of impaired, distracted and otherwise crappy drivers. The purpose of a system like that is to prevent the stupid accidents.
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