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View Poll Results: How safe are driverless vehicles? Will they get safer in the future?
Driverless vehicles are safer than human-driven vehicles 8 15.69%
Driverless vehicles aren't safer than human-driven vehicles 10 19.61%
Driverless vehicles will get safer in the future 21 41.18%
Driverless vehicles won't get safer in the future 4 7.84%
I am undecided 8 15.69%
Voters: 51. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 01-07-2017, 10:56 AM
 
Location: Portland, OR
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I would walk everywhere before I trust my life to a death machine robot. Humans have dignity and are smart. I would never give up manual control of the wheel, gas and brake pedals on a car and I will march on Washington before they take away the ability to manually drive. I am only 32 soon to be 33 years old and I hope this technology fails so badly it takes more than 50 years to get in in mainstream so I will never see the terrifying nightmare of it in my lifetime.

Driverless cars are not safe. Humans are way better. I do not give rats ass what the stats say from the self control freaks promoting this horrific nightmare technology. I have been driving for a whole bunch for almost 18 years and have never gotten in an accident. If i ever made a mistake and got in accidnet that took my life, I would rather it be under my control than under the control of a death machine robot.

Driverless tech belongs on trains and in subways which are actually on a track in a controlled environment and in elevators, not on an open road in an uncontrolled environment with an infinite number of variables. I do not care what technology advances as it will never change my mind ever!!!
Your infinite number of variables is based on flawed thinking. There will not be infinite possibilities when all cars are autonomous and communicating with each other and driving on dedicated road infrastructure. Oh, and it won't be 50 years, more like 15 to 25 at the max, according to automakers and technologists. Final thought, even if you would like to believe that driverless cars are not safe (or less safe than a human driver) the statistics and data just do not support with your assertion. You based all your reasoning on your driving abilities, which sound excellent, but unfortunately there are a lot of inattentive, poor drivers that more than make up for your superior driving skills.
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Old 01-07-2017, 11:22 AM
 
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The people who want to ban human drivers and/pr think robots (Skynet anyone) are just as bad if not worse than communists and dictators and I prey to god they never make it into any law making position.

Driving is our right and our culture and nobody should ever take it away from us.
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Old 01-07-2017, 04:37 PM
 
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It could be fun, on a 2 lane road, if there's a long line of self driving cars that will not pass a slow vehicle because it would require exceeding the speed limit. There's a passing zone but there are too many cars to pass but you know that any one of the self driving cars will automatically yield the space for you to pull back in at any point. So off you go.
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Old 01-07-2017, 04:37 PM
 
Location: AZ
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Who does the road rage nut shoot when the robot car does not move fast enough? Does the nut shoot the car or the poor slob in the drivers seat but not driving?

Just asking.
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Old 01-08-2017, 11:19 AM
 
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It could be fun, on a 2 lane road, if there's a long line of self driving cars that will not pass a slow vehicle because it would require exceeding the speed limit. There's a passing zone but there are too many cars to pass but you know that any one of the self driving cars will automatically yield the space for you to pull back in at any point. So off you go.
I just want to add that I don't know how a self driving car would behave on the road, having never seen one, but with no ego and only logic guiding them, I think there will be predictable responses that a human driver in another vehicle could exploit.
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Old 01-08-2017, 11:53 AM
 
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They come and reasonably quickly. The kid or tree problem will never really occur practically. The algorithms simply do not work that way. The complaint will be that the vehicles are too conservative and slow down too soon. In most situations they will simply not go into the zone where they cannot react to a pedestrian. You can contrive such a situation but otherwise unlikely. Pedestrians rarely drop from a highway overpass...but when they do they will be hit.

V2V communication packages will be very helpful in such circumstances as blind corners. The autonomous vehicle will simply know more than the human driver. The system may be able to make that information available in a simplified form...ie a red light on the dash that says "brake now"...but the human will be able to use only a small part of the info.

Trucks first is the likely pattern. The payoff is simply much greater than a car. And the cost tolerance is much higher.

Snow and inclement weather will not prove a big barrier. These things see in more dimensions than humans and will have better position knowledge. They will also have better control of the mechanics and will also be more consistent. The will approach the unknown more carefully and will quit when when the situation cannot be diagnosed as safe.
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Old 01-08-2017, 11:59 AM
 
Location: South Jersey
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I think it's a terrible idea. Terrifying, actually. I wouldn't want to be a passenger in one.
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Old 01-08-2017, 12:18 PM
 
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They're coming, people, there's no denying it.
A better question is when are they going to ban human-driven cars? I figure that 50 years from now, a human driving a car wouldn't be able to afford the liability insurance. Human driven cars will be limited to closed driving courses.

20 years from now, all the bugs should be worked out. There is no way in the world your Amazon.com order will be delivered by a human in most places. Ditto FEDEX and UPS. Long haul trucking will be fully automated.

In about half the states in the country, "truck driver" is the most common occupation. There won't be many 20 years from now.
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Old 01-08-2017, 12:19 PM
 
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I think it's a terrible idea. Terrifying, actually. I wouldn't want to be a passenger in one.
Have you ever rode in an elevator?
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Old 01-08-2017, 12:53 PM
 
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Have you ever rode in an elevator?
A horrible comparison. An elevator is is extremely simple and on a track and moves slowly unlike a car which is in an open environment with nearly infinite number of scenarios.
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