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Old 04-15-2017, 03:01 PM
 
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Inflation...look into it. Invest to protect against it.
Inflation is out of control period, no matter how you slice and dice it. But you know for a fact you can tie the past depression and economy that tank to the rise in gas prices. Soon as it started to hit the 3-5$mark, economny took a sh and took years to recover. We cant have that repeated ever again. Prices rise but pay checks dont compensate for it. But thats whole another thread.


So if hybrid is a no-go, than what is the hold up for all electric? Least get 10% on the road that can do 200 miles to a charge. that will help alot of city folks for sure..
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Old 04-15-2017, 06:59 PM
 
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The hybrid tax credit expired a few years ago. Only full EVs are eligible for the credit today.

I like my Prius V because it has very good range, over 500 miles on 11 gallons (usually about 550 miles). It's been a good car, very affordable to operate.

With the lower fuel prices, I was encouraged to buy a minivan, which I love, though it needs twice the fuel. Couldn't imagine filling up 21 or 22 gallons at $5/gallon. Those prices aren't coming back for a while, not with fracking and an oil-friendly President.
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Old 04-15-2017, 07:08 PM
 
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The previous administration drove oil prices very low to put the squeeze on Putin's imperial ambitions. Russia depended on oil and gas revenues to fund their army. The current administration is much happier at the prospect of a resurgent Russian empire. Expect gasoline prices to continue to creep up as the Obama/Kerry deals are abandoned.
oh please, gas prices are going up as usual at this time of year, since we are getting into the summer driving season. it has nothing to do with russia or anyone else.
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Old 04-15-2017, 07:14 PM
 
Location: Not far from Fairbanks, AK
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oh please, gas prices are going up as usual at this time of year, since we are getting into the summer driving season. it has nothing to do with russia or anyone else.
To some, politics is like a religion.

Around Fairbanks, Alaska, the cost of fuel per gallon goes up as summer nears. The snow is just melting, and gasoline is going up to around $3.00 per gallon, which is very normal over here. By July there is a chance for it to be around $3.60 or more per gallon.
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Old 04-15-2017, 07:33 PM
 
Location: Myrtle Creek, Oregon
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oh please, gas prices are going up as usual at this time of year, since we are getting into the summer driving season. it has nothing to do with russia or anyone else.
Gas prices are about 15% higher today than they were last year at this time. Expect that trend to continue.

AAA Gas Prices
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Old 04-15-2017, 07:42 PM
 
Location: Myrtle Creek, Oregon
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To some, politics is like a religion.

Around Fairbanks, Alaska, the cost of fuel per gallon goes up as summer nears. The snow is just melting, and gasoline is going up to around $3.00 per gallon, which is very normal over here. By July there is a chance for it to be around $3.60 or more per gallon.
Some people can't remember what they had for breakfast, and have no clue what is going on in the world. Kerry convinced the Saudis to put the screws to the Russians by driving the price of crude below the cost of extraction. If you don't remember, it caused a huge recession in the oil industry in the US. A lot of oil workers lost their jobs, but there was no outcry because consumers were sucking down cheap oil.

There is a vast difference between idiot ideology and what is happening in the real world. Did you miss the part about Russia occupying Crimea and attacking Ukraine? Wonder of wonders, that showed up at the gas pump. Ending sanctions against Iran and getting their oil supply on the world market had a big effect too.

If there is no access to world news in Fairbanks, you can subscribe to economic and trade magazines online.
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Old 04-15-2017, 07:49 PM
 
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Some people can't remember what they had for breakfast, and have no clue what is going on in the world. Kerry convinced the Saudis to put the screws to the Russians by driving the price of crude below the cost of extraction. If you don't remember, it caused a huge recession in the oil industry in the US. A lot of oil workers lost their jobs, but there was no outcry because consumers were sucking down cheap oil.

There is a vast difference between idiot ideology and what is happening in the real world. Did you miss the part about Russia occupying Crimea and attacking Ukraine? Wonder of wonders, that showed up at the gas pump. Ending sanctions against Iran and getting their oil supply on the world market had a big effect too.

If there is no access to world news in Fairbanks, you can subscribe to economic and trade magazines online.
Sad that we have enough that we drill and produce to support our own need, so why does china or russia have any affect on our pricing is beyond me. It should affect the country that is in trouble, not the ripple affect what happens in china.
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Old 04-15-2017, 11:32 PM
 
Location: Not far from Fairbanks, AK
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Some people can't remember what they had for breakfast, and have no clue what is going on in the world. Kerry convinced the Saudis to put the screws to the Russians by driving the price of crude below the cost of extraction. If you don't remember, it caused a huge recession in the oil industry in the US. A lot of oil workers lost their jobs, but there was no outcry because consumers were sucking down cheap oil.

There is a vast difference between idiot ideology and what is happening in the real world. Did you miss the part about Russia occupying Crimea and attacking Ukraine? Wonder of wonders, that showed up at the gas pump. Ending sanctions against Iran and getting their oil supply on the world market had a big effect too.

If there is no access to world news in Fairbanks, you can subscribe to economic and trade magazines online.
All I was trying to say is that politics and religion should be talked about in other than the Automotive forum. That's all. That said, the price per gallon of gasoline in Alaska has been a lot higher in recent years.

This is 2017 (chart below). In 2014 the price per gallon was $4.19, 2015 was $3.36. It has been cheaper for the year, but it's getting up to $3.00 per gallon this month, and by summer it may be similar to two years ago.
http://www.alaskagasprices.com/retail_price_chart.aspx

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Old 04-15-2017, 11:51 PM
 
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Inflation is out of control period, no matter how you slice and dice it. But you know for a fact you can tie the past depression and economy that tank to the rise in gas prices. Soon as it started to hit the 3-5$mark, economny took a sh and took years to recover. We cant have that repeated ever again. Prices rise but pay checks dont compensate for it. But thats whole another thread.

So if hybrid is a no-go, than what is the hold up for all electric? Least get 10% on the road that can do 200 miles to a charge. that will help alot of city folks for sure..
The electric car is a city car. Out in the areas of the country like ours, they are not even considered by locals. There is not one Tesla registered in Montana as an example. There is one inWyoming, owned by a movie star kept at his ranch as a go to town car in the summer only.

That 200 miles is on flat ground in reasonably warm weather. Put snow on the ground and it cutsits range by as much as 60% when it gets down to say 20 degrees below zero. Add some hills and mountains, and it cuts it more. There is not enough range to drive west to the next town in the winter time in our area.

Go down to the shopping areas in non tourist time, and 3/4s of the cars will be medium size and up SUVs and Full size 4 door Pickups, all with 4 weel drive. City people look shocked when some little 5 ft. teen age girl dressed up for a party and climbs into a F-250 Ford half ton 4 door 4X4 pickup, and handles it like it was a small car. And it will be a deluxe model with all options, with list price over $60,000. Gas mileage Gas mileage 24 MPG and a 48 gallon tank. List price just around $60,000
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Old 04-16-2017, 09:55 AM
 
Location: WA
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The electric car is a city car. Out in the areas of the country like ours, they are not even considered by locals. There is not one Tesla registered in Montana as an example. There is one inWyoming, owned by a movie star kept at his ranch as a go to town car in the summer only.

That 200 miles is on flat ground in reasonably warm weather. Put snow on the ground and it cutsits range by as much as 60% when it gets down to say 20 degrees below zero. Add some hills and mountains, and it cuts it more. There is not enough range to drive west to the next town in the winter time in our area.

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I know someone that lives in the city and bought a Tesla but found a problem on occasional visits to his mother's house in the country. Not on a super-charger route and far enough away that range was marginal in the winter... and required and overnight stay to get a charge to make it home. He wound up renting cars just to make the visit to mom's and got rid of the Tesla as a result.
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