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Old 05-30-2017, 09:45 AM
 
Location: Pikesville, MD
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AFIK real car enthusiasts are not buying the Tesla anyway.
I know a lot of enthusiasts who buy Teslas as their daily drivers, and use the power quite a bit. And they certainly can use max power more than just one time in a row, though unless you are drag racing all day, it's not an issue as you can blast up an onramp and cool down once you get up to speed. And even speeding down twisty backroads, you're not under constant acceleration. So in the real world, it's not an issue. You can use as much power as any supercar or musclecar.

I've driven a buddy's P90D and let me tell you, that power is addicting.
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Old 05-30-2017, 10:23 AM
 
Location: Paranoid State
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840 horse you make that sound like a crazy feat to be made...

I can put an old carbed big block together in my garage that will eclipse 840 reliably.
That isn't the issue. The issue is making a production engine, make it street legal, including smog regulations, and fitting it into CAFE.

Moreover the Demon is more than an engine -- its other things including launch control and suspension that allows weight transfer to the rear, etc etc etc.

And it has a factory warranty.

Personally, I look forward to all the major manufacturers engaged in a HP war. We're entering a 2nd Golden Age of Muscle Cars, and I like it.

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Old 05-30-2017, 10:31 AM
 
Location: Paranoid State
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I know a lot of enthusiasts who buy Teslas as their daily drivers, and use the power quite a bit. ... I've driven a buddy's P90D and let me tell you, that power is addicting.
I've never driven one, but I have sat in a stationary one.

I noticed all sorts of little details of things not lining up, odd irregularities and inconsistencies in the way the interior was assembled. The materials were high quality, but they just didn't fit together properly. On the outside, many panels were not aligned correctly and much of the molding looked like it was installed by kindergarteners.

The real problem is that the traditional manufacturers really know how to design a car for manufacturing and assemble it properly, a problem that's almost harder than designing a car for functionality. Tesla is still figuring this part out.

See for example https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/thre...-a-week.66580/
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Old 05-30-2017, 11:17 AM
 
Location: PSL
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That isn't the issue. The issue is making a production engine, make it street legal, including smog regulations, and fitting it into CAFE.

Moreover the Demon is more than an engine -- its other things including launch control and suspension that allows weight transfer to the rear, etc etc etc.

And it has a factory warranty.

Personally, I look forward to all the major manufacturers engaged in a HP war. We're entering a 2nd Golden Age of Muscle Cars, and I like it.
Why?

To make the insurance companies money?

Screw cafe and the EPA.

Launch control is a gas pedal and a clutch pedal.
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Old 05-30-2017, 11:55 AM
 
Location: Pikesville, MD
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I've never driven one, but I have sat in a stationary one.

I noticed all sorts of little details of things not lining up, odd irregularities and inconsistencies in the way the interior was assembled. The materials were high quality, but they just didn't fit together properly. On the outside, many panels were not aligned correctly and much of the molding looked like it was installed by kindergarteners.

I did see that with early cars, but later production versions seem to be quite nice. My buddy's car is a later one and it is, while spartan inside, well put together and the exterior seams are nice and everything lines up. The early Model Xs are the same way. I saw a first gen one, and the Falcon wing doors had alignment issues, but there is one at work that is brand new, and it all lines up great.

But you really ought to drive one if you can. It's an interesting and amazing experience, especially the more powerful AWD versions.
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Old 06-01-2017, 09:38 PM
 
Location: Metro Detroit Michigan
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Why?

To make the insurance companies money?

Screw cafe and the EPA.

Launch control is a gas pedal and a clutch pedal.
You can say screw cafe and EPA. But unfortunately the automakers can't.
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