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Old 05-08-2017, 06:04 PM
 
Location: Montgomery County, PA
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This is true for both the old and the new cars. You've parked somewhere and want to charge your phone. Nope. Can't do. Why? Because for no reason the cigarette lighter is not hot wired. You have to switch to "Accessory" for that. Well, I don't want to do that and light up the entire dash. When I set up something similar on my motorcycle, I made sure there was a direction connection to the battery.
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Old 05-08-2017, 06:06 PM
 
Location: North Beach, MD on the Chesapeake
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It's live on my F150 as well as other Fords, as well as a couple Chevys, I've had over the last twenty years. I don't remember before that. It is not live on the Forester.
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Old 05-08-2017, 06:09 PM
 
Location: Montgomery County, PA
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It is not hot on my '16 ES 350 nor the 98 Explorer. I can check two others in the stable.
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Old 05-08-2017, 06:34 PM
 
Location: East of Seattle since 1992, originally from SF Bay Area
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On my Challenger, the outer console outlet is keyed, but the one inside the console storage bin is always hot. There is no lighter, I haven't seen one in a car since about 2008. Just sockets with little doors on them.
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Old 05-08-2017, 06:55 PM
 
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Always hot on my Toy truck and VW car.... easy enough to make it always hot with the Most basic of wiring skills. Probably smarter to just install a dedicated USB charging port, you can then have 2 2A ports for "fast charging"/AC mode and skip the junky adapters.
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Old 05-08-2017, 06:59 PM
 
Location: occupied east coast
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On Porsche's the "lighter" socket is in fact "hot".

On Mercedes Benz, it is not.

Same on my new Beam.

In fact, on the Beamer, there is no "lighter" only a power outlet, as there is no ashtray in my 340.

I am not entirely sure, but I seem to recall that B.M.W. either currently. or in the recent past has offered a "smoking kit" as an option.

If you can't tell, I am "addicted" to German steel.

It seems to me, it would be cheaper if I just started smoking Crack.
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Old 05-08-2017, 07:03 PM
 
Location: Texas
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So you don't turn the car off with something plugged in, forget, and drain your battery?

Only thing I can think of.

Besides safety.
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Old 05-08-2017, 07:05 PM
 
Location: Grosse Ile Michigan
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So you don't turn the car off with something plugged in, forget, and drain your battery?

Only thing I can think of.

Besides safety.
Most cars now shut things down before the battery is drained past a start charge.
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Old 05-08-2017, 07:09 PM
 
Location: Southern Arizona
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As others have already pointed out . . . varies by Vehicle Manufacturer and possibly year / model.

The Lighter Socket on my 2005 Chevrolet along with two AUX Plugs in the cab and one AUX plug in the bed is HOT regardless of the Ignition Key position.

On the flip side . . . my 1986 Jeep CJ-7 requires the Ignition Switch to be in the ON or the Accessory position.
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Old 05-08-2017, 07:16 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Most cars now shut things down before the battery is drained past a start charge.
I have a 2012 Toyota and a 2017 Mercedes. Neither gives power when shut off.
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