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While I applaud Dodge for constantly pushing the envelope with cars like the Hellcat and Demon, here's the problem. The ZL1 has a modern, world-class chassis while the Challenger uses an ancient M-B sourced platform. The Camaro is a much better performance car overall and the ZL1's small straight line deficit relative to the Hellcat would take very little money to rectify. On the other hand, making the Challenger on par with the Camaro in every other aspect would be prohibitively expense.
Same goes for the Demon. I was a teenager in the 1970's and was in awe of 60's and early 70's muscle cars. In my opinion, the current Challenger is a much better looking car than the current Camaro, but I still prefer performance (not just straight line) over looks, hence the Camaro wins - hands down. I could bring my '11 CTS-V up to Demon straight line performance levels for less than $10K and end up with a much, much better car simply because, other than sheer horsepower, a 6 year old CTS-V is a vastly superior car relative to the Challenger in every way to start with.
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The Challenger Demon comes out late this year, and it's even faster than the Hellcat. Only 3000 per year will be made for the US and 300 for Canada.
The car in the video has a non-stock, non-streetable tire setup (suitable for a daily driver). Yes, it takes a boat load of HP to lift the front wheels, but sticky tires are equally important. Show me a video of a real street car (not some hokey NHRA class) lifting the front wheels on real street tires (not slicks or drag radials), then I will be impressed.
I can't wait to see some 1/4 miles times for the Demon on real tires with normal drivers. I suspect we'll see a lot of 1.9 or slower 60ft times, 11 second 1/4 miles, and a lot of cars hitting the wall (inexperienced drivers + lots of power = disaster in the hands of the unskilled - even in a straight line). Still very fast and very impressive, but it seems like a lot of folks don't understand the huge impact slicks have on 1/4 mile times.
I personally love them all, and would have one of each if I could. Not a lot of curvy roads or mountain roads where I live down here on the southeast coast. But, there is a snake road on the way to my job, and the Hellcat handles them with ease. This is a flat road, but have three very deep curves about a quarter mile apart from each other. Over the years I have worked at my job, I have seen many many accidents in these curves where cars and trucks have flipped over, and a few were my coworkers.
While I applaud Dodge for constantly pushing the envelope with cars like the Hellcat and Demon, here's the problem. The ZL1 has a modern, world-class chassis while the Challenger uses an ancient M-B sourced platform. The Camaro is a much better performance car overall and the ZL1's small straight line deficit relative to the Hellcat would take very little money to rectify. On the other hand, making the Challenger on par with the Camaro in every other aspect would be prohibitively expense.
Same goes for the Demon. I was a teenager in the 1970's and was in awe of 60's and early 70's muscle cars. In my opinion, the current Challenger is a much better looking car than the current Camaro, but I still prefer performance (not just straight line) over looks, hence the Camaro wins - hands down. I could bring my '11 CTS-V up to Demon straight line performance levels for less than $10K and end up with a much, much better car simply because, other than sheer horsepower, a 6 year old CTS-V is a vastly superior car relative to the Challenger in every way to start with.
Good post, I appreciate what you have to say about these cars. But, that 2017 black ZL1 in the video is a real beauty also. I can see myself in one of them as well. That front end is real aggressive and would be intimidating in anybody's rear view mirror.
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