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Not sure where you live but the rust issue seems to be oriented toward the big 3. Here in Ohio they start rusting in just a couple of winters, especially the cab corners, wheel wells, and rocker panels. And given 1/2 of the ones sold here are some version of white, the rust is extremely noticeable. Also the rust streaks on the chrome and painted bumpers.
Given what pickups cost today they shouldn't rust ever.
I live in northern Illinois (tons of road salt). And I also have seen the rockers rusted out. Mine are just starting to bubble just a bit in the last 3" before cab corner. I immediately sprayed fluid film in the rockers, removed tail lights and shot it in the wheel wells. When I bought it they told me that they started putting zinc in the primer to prevent rust, I'm sure it helped but didn't stop it completely. I don't recall the big three having and problems with the truck frames rusting out like Toyota did. I totally agree with your last statement.
GM with engine issues......Can't think of any in the last 30 years!
Chevy has had the diesel Colorado for 2+ years now.
Gm along with Honda is having oil consumption issues with the motors that have cylinder deactivation on them. Personally I would avoid them (cylinder deactivation) until they can offer a better solution.
The biggest selling points of the Tacoma are reliability and resale value. A Tacoma (and Tundra) will easily last twice as long as anything the "big 3" can put out.
OK then, well reasoned and well supported position that is patently untrue. Amusing through. Plus it should generate some lively discussion.
GM with engine issues......Can't think of any in the last 30 years!
Chevy has had the diesel Colorado for 2+ years now.
Any of the 2007 generation with AFM had noted issues. As for the diesel option, I mean in a half ton truck.
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Wait, you can track your car after you sell it? How does Carfax know?
Sure, all you need is the VIN.
CarFax only knows what its been told, but if its been brought in for service or resold it likely gets a record of that data, and reports it.
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What's all this talk about rust? I thought rust went the way of Ziebart. I have had Dodge trucks since 2000 and never saw a spec of rust anywhere.
Rust happens still. I don't think its anything like it was. It depends on use. Salt exposure is a big culprit. I think that driving down gravel roads where you are more likely to compromise the paint also causes accelerated oxidation. My car has a lot of highway miles, and rock chips on the hood have begun to rust. If I lived in the Midwest or Northeast, and were buying a new car I intended to keep, I would likely have it rust proofed.
The reason the GM Dodge and Ford Trucks are cheap is because of fleet sales while Toyotas hold value due to lack of fleet sales i have seen older Small tacomas more expensive then newer F150 and Full Size GM models
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I live in northern Illinois (tons of road salt). And I also have seen the rockers rusted out. Mine are just starting to bubble just a bit in the last 3" before cab corner. I immediately sprayed fluid film in the rockers, removed tail lights and shot it in the wheel wells. When I bought it they told me that they started putting zinc in the primer to prevent rust, I'm sure it helped but didn't stop it completely. I don't recall the big three having and problems with the truck frames rusting out like Toyota did. I totally agree with your last statement.
Yeah - Dana really cut corners on those frames they supplied Toyota. They rusted through even in states that didn't use road salt, like Utah. Toyota took care of their owners, however, and replaced those frames with good ones at tremendous cost. They should now be good for the life of the vehicle.
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Inspections for one.
And every time it is serviced or emission checked. For giggles I track them using the manufacturer's owner portal and Carfax.
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