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Old 10-13-2017, 09:57 PM
 
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I've been driving in Wales, UK, the last two weeks and there's a lot of diesel cars here unavailable in the USA. Air quality here is as good as home. None of the cars I've been following has emitted so much as a whiff of diesel smoke even in heavy stop 'n go traffic in Oxford or Pembroke.

Diesel cost per liter is within a penny or two between the gasoline and diesel.

I'm driving a Ford Fiesta Eco-boost gasoline car and have been getting 52 mpg, imperial gallon. Speeds vary between 25-ish on the country lanes and in-town traffic to 55-70 mph on the A roads. Lots of tight up and down hill driving in 2nd and 3rd gear here, fiesta performance adequate. I see little reason for a more powerful car given the roads and traffic density. Lots of MB and BMW 's here, along with Peugeot, Renault, Citroen, and domestic British Marques on the roads.
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Old 10-16-2017, 10:15 PM
 
Location: The Ranch in Olam Haba
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fwiw

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The Citroen C4 came 139th out of 150 models in our 2016 Driver Power owner satisfaction survey, 124th for reliability and a worrying 141st for build quality.
Citroën C4 hatchback review | Carbuyer
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Old 10-17-2017, 05:06 AM
 
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how does he find the interior???? i checked one few weeks ago and it looked pretty cheap inside - plastic, cheap plastic everywhere, small seats, it you are taller - no chance to feel comfortable, no feet room at the rear
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Old 10-17-2017, 07:39 AM
 
Location: East of Seattle since 1992, 615' Elevation, Zone 8b - originally from SF Bay Area
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That kind of economy means sacrificing power. With only 94 horsepower, that would not keep up with freeway traffic here.
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Old 10-17-2017, 08:38 AM
 
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That kind of economy means sacrificing power. With only 94 horsepower, that would not keep up with freeway traffic here.
Right, because these cars never drive on the Autobahn...
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Old 10-17-2017, 11:12 AM
 
Location: The Ranch in Olam Haba
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Right, because these cars never drive on the Autobahn...

You forgot the . If people don't drive on fast EU highways, they simply don't know.
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Old 10-17-2017, 12:20 PM
 
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You forgot the . If people don't drive on fast EU highways, they simply don't know.
Oh, I'd think the "..." was pretty self-explanatory re sarcasm.

I've driven far more underpowered cars on EU roads. The C4 is just fine.
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Old 10-17-2017, 03:45 PM
 
Location: Austin
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The readout is probably English gallons

Diesel pollution is also a big issue in Europe now, and they're regretting pushing diesel for CO2 reductions
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