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Old 10-30-2017, 02:51 PM
 
Location: NYC
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https://www.consumerreports.org/car-...reliable-cars/

Subaru BRZ/Toyota 86. Price as tested: $27,117/$25,025. ...
Lexus ES. Price as tested: $43,702-$44,017. ...
Lexus GS. Price as tested: $58,858. ...
Lexus IS
Infiniti Q70
Audi Q3. Price as tested: $40,125. ...
Toyota RAV4. Price as tested: $29,014-$29,753. ...
Lexus IS. Price as tested $48,149. ...
Toyota Prius V. Price as tested: $28,217. ...
Toyota Prius C. Price as tested: $20,850.
Kia Niro
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Old 10-30-2017, 02:54 PM
 
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https://www.consumerreports.org/car-...reliable-cars/

Subaru BRZ/Toyota 86. Price as tested: $27,117/$25,025. ...
Lexus ES. Price as tested: $43,702-$44,017. ...
Lexus GS. Price as tested: $58,858. ...
Audi Q3. Price as tested: $40,125. ...
Toyota RAV4. Price as tested: $29,014-$29,753. ...
Lexus IS. Price as tested $48,149. ...
Toyota Prius V. Price as tested: $28,217. ...
Toyota Prius C. Price as tested: $20,850.
Also note 7 are Toyota products!
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Old 10-30-2017, 03:01 PM
 
Location: Raleigh
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Also note 7 are Toyota products!
Unless you don't count the Prius as a car.
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Old 10-30-2017, 03:03 PM
 
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The ES is built in Kentucky...so is it an import?
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Old 10-30-2017, 03:38 PM
 
Location: Vallejo
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Also note 7 are Toyota products!
I wouldn't say it's coincidence. Toyota makes reliable cars and dominates any most reliable vehicle list. They take 7/10, leaving only two slots for everyone else to compete for. That a domestic doesn't hit one of the two non-Toyota spots isn't necessarily an indication of bad reliability. Ford and GM have both been doing fairly well as that goes, just not as well as Audi with the Q3 apparently. That's to me the really interesting one. Audi has done a decent job of turning itself around from a FCA brand to at least decent reliability. I've checked out the Niro at an autoshow. They did a really good job on it, just I'd be concerned with the long-term reliability of the batteries given the high failure rates of some *cough* Honda *cough* hybrids. The Q70 and Q3 are both coming out of left field surprises. Audi or Infiniti topping a reliability test. Good for them. I like the Q3, wouldn't mind one in SQ guise if they brought one over.
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Old 10-30-2017, 04:22 PM
 
Location: San Antonio
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Toyota is synonymous with quality. Their cars are not only well engineered, they are well built and thoroughly tested before they hit the market. The American built Toyotas are just as reliable as their Japanese counterparts. US Toyota workers are well trained, well paid and if they do good work, have excellent job security.

Detroit cars are built by the UAW. They are put on the market too early and the public has to test them and are put out when the cars are invariably brought in for warranty repairs. The best warranty is the one you never have to use. My final Detroit 3 car was taken in for warranty work over a dozen times. None of the Japanese brand cars needed any work during their warranty period.

I value reliability above all else, so for the past 17 years, I have only bought Toyotas. My 24 year old 1993 Nissan truck, built in Tennessee has been excellent, too. It has needed less than $1000 in repairs in the 24 years I have owned it.
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Old 10-30-2017, 08:47 PM
 
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Another hogwash "survey".

Only done by Consumer Reports subscribers. Another subset of reality.

Not the general public.
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Old 10-30-2017, 08:54 PM
 
Location: Tip of the Sphere. Just the tip.
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Don't get me wrong- I like my cheap/rusty American cars.

But no, this is not a coincidence.
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Old 10-30-2017, 09:18 PM
 
Location: Texas
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You're first mistake was posting anything from the rice winos at Consumer Reports. The auto industry considers them a joke. Most US car makers don't even submit cars for their examination. CR has to go out and buy the cars. The foreign makers are most willing to submit cars for free and the results are in the link you posted. At one time Consumers Union was a decent place to get info on most anything. But the bias has been foreign made crap is king and USA made is crap for decades. That's why few with any intelligence puts any faith in anything they publish.
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Old 10-30-2017, 09:55 PM
 
Location: San Antonio
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You're first mistake was posting anything from the rice winos at Consumer Reports. The auto industry considers them a joke. Most US car makers don't even submit cars for their examination. CR has to go out and buy the cars. The foreign makers are most willing to submit cars for free and the results are in the link you posted. At one time Consumers Union was a decent place to get info on most anything. But the bias has been foreign made crap is king and USA made is crap for decades. That's why few with any intelligence puts any faith in anything they publish.
Consumer Reports buys all their cars. A car donated for testing by the manufacturer would be gone over with a fine tooth comb before delivery, and then even Detroit cars might squeak by. Consumer Reports tests what everyone gets. The car magazines get donated cars from all the manufacturers.

The reliability rankings are from actual owner's experience with their cars. Detroit cars have been among the worst in the world since the early 70s. People bought Japanese cars when the oil embargo hit. and realized the cars were MUCH better built and extremely reliable. Detroit has been playing catch up all these years and have improved, but the Asian makes don't stand still. The Detroit cars just cannot compete with Asian cars. Asian car haters drive around in their improved Detroit cars and since they don't know any better, they think their cars are world class. Compared to Asian cars, they are just world class junk. I was one who grew up in the 1950s and early 60s when a Made In Japan" label was synonymous with junk. It took me too many years of sticking with Detroit heaps and reading Consumer Reports telling me the exact problem areas of my Detroit junkers, and reading how much better the Japanese makes were. I finally gave Japan Inc. a chance and I will NEVER buy anything to spew out of Detroit again.
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