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Old 11-04-2017, 04:33 PM
 
Location: Atlanta
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I just got a new car with push button start. I really didn't care either way but it's pretty nice. I just leave it in my pocket. Car automatically unlocks when I grab the handle. Car automatically locks when I walk more than 5 feet away from the car. I never have to take my keys out. Not a huge deal, but I'd say I prefer it.

I don't get the concern about losing/leaving the fob. How's that any different from having a turn key ignition? It's only an issue maybe if you leave the fob in the cup holder or something but then what about all the other keys? I guess if you're just going into the store but I've NEVER locked my keys in the car (I don't understand how people do). When I have a fob to lock/unlock, I always do that. When I don't have that option (like my old truck), I always make sure I have the key.

And how is carbon monoxide poisoning an issue?
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Old 11-04-2017, 04:44 PM
 
Location: Raleigh
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<>And how is carbon monoxide poisoning an issue?
Well, if your car is running in the garage, it possibly kills you and your whole family. Read the thread for the stories.
See post #105.
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Old 11-04-2017, 05:16 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas
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So many people are mentioning leaving their fob in their vehicle while parked in the garage...this seems unsafe. The vehicle is unlocked and able to be started with the push of a button. What's to keep a curious child from starting the vehicle and not telling someone? Also quite a few here must be living in places where garages aren't frequently broken into because this just seems like a bad idea to me...people dont typically leave their keys in the ignition for the same reasons and yet the fob creates the same risks.
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Old 11-04-2017, 06:09 PM
 
Location: Floribama
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My previous car, a 2012 Sonata, was a base model so it had the key start... but the higher trim levels had push button start. Those cars are well known for seized engines, and with the base models if the engine doesn't turn over you simply let go of the key... but the ones with push button start would automatically keep trying to crank the engine until the starter overheated, sometimes even catching fire! All of the ones I've seen that caught fire had push button start, the computer was too stupid to realize something was wrong with the engine.
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Old 11-04-2017, 06:34 PM
 
Location: San Bernardino, CA
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My 2016 Nissan Rogue SL has an engine start button. It took me some time to get use to. What I hate is that you can only listen to the radio for a short time with the engine off until it powers off.

So I wouldn't lose the key transponder, I sticked a small plastic hook under the start button. Its safer than having them in your pocket (while in the car) or in the cup holder. Many modern vehicles also have the "Pit of Loss" under the seat.
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Old 11-04-2017, 06:48 PM
 
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We have one keyed and two push. As long as it goes from A to B. Recently I rented a push button hybrid. You push and nothing happens. Until you put it in drive and go.
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Old 11-04-2017, 08:10 PM
 
Location: Raleigh
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My 2016 Nissan Rogue SL has an engine start button. It took me some time to get use to. What I hate is that you can only listen to the radio for a short time with the engine off until it powers off.

So I wouldn't lose the key transponder, I sticked a small plastic hook under the start button. Its safer than having them in your pocket (while in the car) or in the cup holder. Many modern vehicles also have the "Pit of Loss" under the seat.
Huh, my 2014 Murano has an aux position which lets me listen to the radio. I have never let it run very long, though. I'll have to read the manual and see what it says.
The Murano has a pocket in the dash that holds the fob. I never use it.
Why is it safer to not have the fob in your pocket?
What is the "Pit of Loss"?
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Old 11-04-2017, 09:03 PM
 
Location: Fuquay Varina
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My previous car, a 2012 Sonata, was a base model so it had the key start... but the higher trim levels had push button start. Those cars are well known for seized engines, and with the base models if the engine doesn't turn over you simply let go of the key... but the ones with push button start would automatically keep trying to crank the engine until the starter overheated, sometimes even catching fire! All of the ones I've seen that caught fire had push button start, the computer was too stupid to realize something was wrong with the engine.
Can you provide a link for that? My ex has a sonata and I'd like to see if there is a worry or not.

I googled and couldn't find anything about it
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Old 11-04-2017, 09:04 PM
 
Location: Wyoming
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... Just one thing: Make sure you change the battery in the fob before it goes flat. She noticed that the range for opening the door had lessened so I measured the battery voltage in the fob and it had declined (after 3 years) by a few tenths of a volt. New batteries fixed it.
I also replaced the battery (in a 2015 Prius) a couple weeks ago -- almost exactly 3 years after purchasing the car. The fob had a "low battery" message on it, so I stopped at the dealership. They replaced the battery at no charge (and showed me how it's done).

This was the first car I've had with the push-button start, and since buying it I've rented a Cruze a couple times with the push-button. I like them fine. We had to replace the ignition switch on my wife's old Saturn, and it's still kind of tricky to use at times. It was a mechanical (wear) problem, something that wouldn't happen with the new style.
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Old 11-04-2017, 09:07 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas
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Huh, my 2014 Murano has an aux position which lets me listen to the radio. I have never let it run very long, though. I'll have to read the manual and see what it says.
The Murano has a pocket in the dash that holds the fob. I never use it.
Why is it safer to not have the fob in your pocket?
What is the "Pit of Loss"?
Actually if a person were to always hang up the fob upon starting the vehicle then they could be certain it remained in the vehicle regardless of switching drivers, jackets, purses ect. 4Runners at least the last generation have a definate "pit of loss" between the center console and both front seats it's darn near impossible to access fallen items under the seats.
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