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Old 11-05-2017, 04:08 PM
 
Location: Citrus Heights, CA
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Pennzoil 5/30 for the truck because I've been using Penz for 50 years and Castrol GTX 20/50 for the bike because I can usually find 20/50 in Castrol.
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Old 11-05-2017, 04:23 PM
 
Location: Spring Hill, Florida
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Depends on the car’s requirements. Mobil One can be great in some cars and bad for others.
What kind of cars is Mobil1 bad for?
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Old 11-05-2017, 04:27 PM
 
Location: Coastal Connecticut
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use the best oil you can afford. i have used penzzoil, castrol, valvoline, mobile one, among other name brands, and found that they are all pretty good oils for most vehicles, even ones that see track time as well as street time. as long as the oil meets or exceeds manufacturers specs, then you are good to go.

the real key here is how often you are changing this oil. since you are seeing track time with this engine, you want to be changing this oil more often than is recommended, on the order of every 2-3000 miles AT MOST.
Yeah. Changing after 2 track days and about 2000 miles.
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Old 11-05-2017, 04:40 PM
 
Location: San Bernardino, CA
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Oreilly Auto Parts store brand 5W-30 Full Synthetic

You can call me cheap, but I'm sure the auto parts store brand is made at the same factory as the name brand. It also meets the specs.

The only motor oil I will not buy is from the Dollar Store, as I heard it has no detergents & is zinc based.
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Old 11-05-2017, 04:44 PM
 
Location: Texas
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The best base stock is Polyol-ester (Redline & Motul)

Sorry, wrong answer. They are only PART poloyol. Redline has the most at 15%

Next best Di-ester (Royal Purple, Amsoil, Neo)

Sorry, wrong answer. None have been di-ester for years now.

Next is polyolefin polyamine (Mobil 1)

Sorry, wrong answer. M1 hasn't been PAO since Katrina when Mobil lost all of their PAO refinery plants. It's been a gp III since and a very small splash of a high VI PAO. There are NO 100% PAO base motor oils on the market as the ethylene gas used to make it is getting hard to find and far too expensive to use as a disposable product.

Hydrocracked (Syntec, Valvoline)

Close, but no cigar. It is a severely hydrocracked crud feedstock. There is a major difference.

Finally regular dyno oils
There are none as such any more. Since the advertising council sided with Castrol about Gp III basestocks are a synthetic based oil, any base oil that does not appear in nature is now a synthetic. That means any motor oil made with anything other than a Gp I base oil is a synthetic oil. Yes, many of the synthetic oils you're buying today that are marketed as a synthetic are yesterdays conventionals.
So what is the best? It always comes up and usually ends in finger pointing. If you own a specific brand of car, get the oil changed at the dealer. Most commonly he's not using the car brand oil as it costs too much. Rarely will you get Toyota motor oil at a Toyota dealer, same at a Ford dealer or a GM dealer. They buy what they can as cheap as possible but still within the ILSAC specifications. The important part is that the dealer is doing it and will have the maintenance records on file should you have an oil related failure. Oil related failures are rare but when they do happen, you have the dealer to stand behind you. Now if you want to get down to formulation, Pennzoil Platninum has the best formulation. Mobil One 5w-30 is still failing IVA testing which means if you are using it in a pushrod engine, your engine is having excessive cam wear. If you have a roller cam engine, it doesn't matter. If you have a modded engine, it depends on the application and use. Major difference between a NA engine and a turbo or supercharged engine in regards to oil requirements. Far too much emphasis on synthetic or a blended oil. Most folks never keep a car long enough for it to matter. But if you're happy with what you've been using, stick with it.
FWIW, Walmart is one of the largest oil change operations in the world. They take care of a lot of fleets, mostly sales cars. Many of these units will run trouble free on the cheapest Walmart branded oil they have and still are running strong at 300,000 miles.
Might also want to research the million mile Ford van. The guy used what ever he could buy on sale, changed about every 40,000 miles and still made it to 1.1 million miles. Like I say, far too much thought and far too much argument over which is the best oil. Let the dealer do it and don't worry about it.
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Old 11-05-2017, 05:03 PM
 
Location: San Antonio, Tx
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Mobil 1 as that is what the small chain I go to uses
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Old 11-05-2017, 05:50 PM
 
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What kind of cars is Mobil1 bad for?
Hyundai/Kia direct injected turbos for one. Turbo Subarus are another.
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Old 11-05-2017, 05:59 PM
 
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99% of the time it does not matter what oil you use ( I am talking street driven cars here).. As long as you change it regularly....
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Old 11-05-2017, 06:05 PM
 
Location: Floribama
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Hyundai/Kia direct injected turbos for one. Turbo Subarus are another.
True there, I've read from multiple sources that Mobil1 shears down badly.


Personally I usually buy Pennzoil Platinum or Quaker State synthetic (both are made by Shell). For high milaege oil I do like Valvoline Maxlife as well.
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Old 11-05-2017, 06:24 PM
 
Location: Spring Hill, Florida
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Hyundai/Kia direct injected turbos for one. Turbo Subarus are another.
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True there, I've read from multiple sources that Mobil1 shears down badly.


Personally I usually buy Pennzoil Platinum or Quaker State synthetic (both are made by Shell). For high milaege oil I do like Valvoline Maxlife as well.
Thanks for the replies. This is the first time I've ever heard such a claim and am just curious. I can't find anything about the issue.
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