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Old 02-22-2018, 10:38 AM
 
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Currently many Full Size sedans could be on the chopping block, while being the best full sized sedans ever made by the manufacturers.

Chevrolet Impala was redesigned in 2014 and got great reviews and is a very nice car, but it seems like GM wont update it like putting in the latest 3.6l w/8spd auto or even a mild refresh to the plain non LTZ rear bumper or try to address the poor rear visibility.

Buick Lacrosse and Cadillac XTS could be on the chopping blacks as well, bu atleast the Lacrosse just got a redesign, so hopefully GM doesnt let that rot and just focuses on the new bigger Regal.

Ford is letting the Taurus rot vs taking the one from China that addresses the current Taurus problems and having it stateside or even making a cheaper Lincoln Continental version of the Taurus, but will make any change to the Explorer they see fit. Ford might cancel the Fusion in NA, even though the car sells quite well.

The Dodge Charger and Chrysler 300 have received a few powertrain updates, but I havent heard of any redesigns in the works

Toyota has redesigned the Avalon and Nissan has redesigned the Maxima, so atleast they seem to be trying.

Full Sized sedans still serve a good purpose of transporting 4 adults comfortably, while handling better than a crossover/suv and better gas mileage as well, but the midsize sedans seem almost as big, minus a bit of trunk space. Wondering if Mid-sized will go even bigger and full-size of 200in+ will go away.

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Old 02-22-2018, 11:11 AM
 
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I would rather have sedans all be discontinued and replaced with wagons. A sedan is the most senseless vehicle type
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Old 02-22-2018, 11:31 AM
 
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I've never liked full-size sedans until this latest crop of them, and it's a little disappointing to see them doing so poorly. We have a CUV/SUV in the family and while it's practical, it's boring as dog poo to drive. Plus, for my needs, having the enclosed trunk is almost a necessity. I just find I get much more driving enjoyment driving a sedan vs the latest trend of CUV's.


I don't understand why Ford lets the Taurus stagnate? The proposed 2019 version is pretty much the same as the 2013 refresh. 5 model years and no changes? Chinese Taurus looks great, and even a rebadged, cheaper continental would be something I'd probably buy.


I just don't want to drive an SUV
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Old 02-22-2018, 12:02 PM
 
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I would rather have sedans all be discontinued and replaced with wagons. A sedan is the most senseless vehicle type
If you dont have anything big to transport, it will seat 4-5 just as fine. The Buick Regal Wagon actually looks good, but since women dont want station wagons and it seems like their opinions is what is swaying the crossover movemnt, the CUV craze will continue.
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Old 02-22-2018, 12:19 PM
 
Location: East of Seattle since 1992, originally from SF Bay Area
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I've never liked full-size sedans until this latest crop of them, and it's a little disappointing to see them doing so poorly. We have a CUV/SUV in the family and while it's practical, it's boring as dog poo to drive. Plus, for my needs, having the enclosed trunk is almost a necessity. I just find I get much more driving enjoyment driving a sedan vs the latest trend of CUV's.


I don't understand why Ford lets the Taurus stagnate? The proposed 2019 version is pretty much the same as the 2013 refresh. 5 model years and no changes? Chinese Taurus looks great, and even a rebadged, cheaper continental would be something I'd probably buy.


I just don't want to drive an SUV
You are in the minority, though, and they are going to make what sells. People even prefer the pickup truck over the sedan now, for some reason.

https://carbuzz.com/news/americans-a...-pickup-trucks

https://www.consumerreports.org/pick...ew-family-car/
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Old 02-22-2018, 12:22 PM
 
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You are in the minority, though, and they are going to make what sells. People even prefer the pickup truck over the sedan now, for some reason.

https://carbuzz.com/news/americans-a...-pickup-trucks

https://www.consumerreports.org/pick...ew-family-car/

yeah, the truck bed is perfect for annoying in laws
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Old 02-22-2018, 12:22 PM
 
Location: Pikesville, MD
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I love full size sedans and daily drive one. I'd rather have it than any wagon.





But I can see the appeal of a higher entry/exit hip point and utility of the CUV/SUV for most people that aren't into sporting vehicles. My Suburban is so much more useful overall, And easier to get in and out of, but it's not sporting to drive and it's a little thirsty for daily use. The executive style sedan is more my style for a daily driver and the trunk is big enough to carry a lot of groceries.


My son let the lease go on his BMW 3 series wagon and got a Honda CRV for his growing family. Much more room than the wagon to carry all the baby supplies and dogs, and easier to get in and out of. Just the right sized vehicle overall.
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Old 02-22-2018, 12:34 PM
 
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You are in the minority,
Oh I realize that. I guess i'll just need to adapt.
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Old 02-22-2018, 12:56 PM
 
Location: Living on the Coast in Oxnard CA
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Our 2011 Honda Accord is a large car. It will comfortably seat 5 adults. We have liked what Honda has done with the Accord The 2018 Accord looks good for a 4 door car. I have never been a fan of 4 door cars. My wife loves the Accord though. I don't see anything else that I would be interested in. Realize I am talking cars for the masses here. I would not include the Cadillac, Lincoln, BMW, Mercedes Benz, Audi or others on this list. Those cars are on another list. For 4 door luxury cars, a different segment, I do like the big Cadillac, I prefer the E class Mercedes over the BMW 7 series for the look anyway. Not a big fan of the Lincoln or AUDI products. I see them as boring. My opinion and that is not worth much so take it as you want.

What I am thinking though is that with an active family a truck works out so much better. I prefer the Ford F150 4 door over any car on the road. With a base price of $34,000 or for the way I want it $40,000.00 I see a 4 door truck as the way to go. Seating for either 5 or 6 depending on the front seat and plenty of room for full size adult people. And you can put lots of stuff in the back of the truck.

Not sure what the gas mileage on a big sedan would be these days. Ford claims that you can get 19MPG in the city and 25MPG on the freeway.

I have to say, it is kind of funny that I have never been a 4 door car person but for the truck I don't have a problem with it.
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Old 02-22-2018, 01:02 PM
 
Location: Alaska
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Currently many Full Size sedans could be on the chopping block, while being the best full sized sedans ever made by the manufacturers.

Chevrolet Impala was redesigned in 2014 and got great reviews and is a very nice car, but it seems like GM wont update it like putting in the latest 3.6l w/8spd auto or even a mild refresh to the plain non LTZ rear bumper or try to address the poor rear visibility.

Buick Lacrosse and Cadillac XTS could be on the chopping blacks as well, bu atleast the Lacrosse just got a redesign, so hopefully GM doesnt let that rot and just focuses on the new bigger Regal.

Ford is letting the Taurus rot vs taking the one from China that addresses the current Taurus problems and having it stateside or even making a cheaper Lincoln Continental version of the Taurus, but will make any change to the Explorer they see fit. Ford might cancel the Fusion in NA, even though the car sells quite well.

The Dodge Charger and Chrysler 300 have received a few powertrain updates, but I havent heard of any redesigns in the works

Toyota has redesigned the Avalon and Nissan has redesigned the Maxima, so atleast they seem to be trying.

Full Sized sedans still serve a good purpose of transporting 4 adults comfortably, while handling better than a crossover/suv and better gas mileage as well, but the midsize sedans seem almost as big, minus a bit of trunk space. Wondering if Mid-sized will go even bigger and full-size of 200in+ will go away.
It sounds like you're advocating for the land yachts of the 70s, 80s, and early 90s.

If so, then I say let the past remain in the past.
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