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Old 05-24-2018, 08:26 AM
 
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IMHO the best cars were made from 1998 to 2005. They have all the safety equipment, but not all of the electronics (screens and key fob for everything). They also have modern designs yet were made before all cars started looking alike.
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Old 05-24-2018, 08:31 AM
 
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My favorite automotive year was 1967.
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Old 05-24-2018, 08:39 AM
 
Location: Phoenix,Arizona
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I would agree that after 1970 the stock performance went into
the toilet


However for me personally, I think across the domestic board that
1972 has the best looking line up as in '73 the goofy bumper brigade
was enforced
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Old 05-24-2018, 09:12 AM
BMI
 
Location: Ontario
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I would agree that after 1970 the stock performance went into
the toilet


However for me personally, I think across the domestic board that
1972 has the best looking line up as in '73 the goofy bumper brigade
was enforced
I think 1971 model year cars still had pretty good performance, just slightly down from 1970 models.
Big drop off came a bit later...around 1973....

By the mid 70s things had gotten very bleak...even the Corvettes at one point
dropped below 200 horse power ...out of a 350 c.i. V8

I owned a 1980 Turbo Trans Am and with a turbo charged 301 c.i. (4.9 liter) V8
could only manage 210 horsepower ...today’s ordinary V6 sedans have more power
(though much less torque).

Notice I menditioned “model year cars”....in north america the car model year usually starts
before the actual year ...around september....so a good porportion of 1970 cars
were actually made in 1969 and on the road in late 1969.

For example, I own a 2007 Camry but I actually purchased it in late august 2006.

And you’re right about those goofy bumpers that were mandated for extra safety,
helped usher in those very ugly cars of the last half of the 70s and most cars would
remain “ugly” well into the 80s.

1967-1970 were the best...have to include 1970 with introduction of the Challenger,
possibly the best looking car of the muscle car era, just arrived a little to late to the party.

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Old 05-24-2018, 09:37 AM
 
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1970 luxury cars (Caddies, Olds 98, Lincoln Continental, Chrysler Imperial) were truly the epitome of American luxury cars: all the options, powerful, comfortable, enormous. Boats on wheels.

Late 60s-early 70s sporty cars were easy to work on; it was what many teenage boys in America did on weekends.

It was a great time. Sadly it all came crashing down with environmentalism and the oil crisis.

Who knows? Maybe those days will return, now that we have much better pollution controls, and are once again the world's biggest oil producer.
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Old 05-24-2018, 09:42 AM
 
Location: San Ramon, Seattle, Anchorage, Reykjavik
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While performance and efficiency are unquestionably better today, the bit about choices is only partially true. Today, it's hard to find a car with a manual transmission. It's hard to find a coupe (a two-door). It's hard to find rear wheel drive.
Chevy Camaro
Ford Mustang
Dodge Challenger
Chevy Corvette
Porsche 911
Porsche Cayman
Porsche Boxster
Most BMWs
Most Audis
Jeep Wrangler
Any Ferrari
Any Lamborghini
.....

Not hard to find all these features in one car, although many are now niche vehicles because, outside of a subset of enthusiasts, no one wants these features. But they are available.
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Old 05-24-2018, 09:46 AM
 
Location: San Ramon, Seattle, Anchorage, Reykjavik
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1) A new car was $3000 plus or minus.
US$3000 in 1970 is almost US$19,000 now. So, cars today are a much better deal. Find a 2018 car that isn't reliable, doesn't get good mileage, doesn't have power windows, etc at this price point.
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Old 05-24-2018, 09:52 AM
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My strongest memory of 1970 cars is never seeing a '70 Camaro whose left taillight assembly was aligned with everything else on the rear.
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Old 05-24-2018, 11:15 AM
 
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Chevy Camaro
Ford Mustang
Dodge Challenger
Chevy Corvette
Porsche 911
Porsche Cayman
Porsche Boxster
Most BMWs
Most Audis
Jeep Wrangler
Any Ferrari
Any Lamborghini
.....

Not hard to find all these features in one car, although many are now niche vehicles because, outside of a subset of enthusiasts, no one wants these features. But they are available.
I'm not aware of any Audis being strictly RWD. The Jeep is a truck. Are any Ferraris or Lambos even available with a manual transmission?

But, add to the list the Mazda Miata, and the Subaru/Toyota BRZ/FRS; also the Nissan 370Z. All are properly RWD, with available manual transmission.

The thing is, that all of them are rather effervescent and flamboyant sports-cars. None are unassuming, economical compacts (though perhaps the Miata qualifies). To the point of this thread, in 1970 it was possible to buy an unpretentious, commuter-oriented Datsun or Toyota that was RWD, with manual transmission, often available in 2-door form. Not so, today.
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Old 05-24-2018, 11:48 AM
 
Location: Alaska
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Nope. 2018 is, until next year. Cars get faster, safer, more efficient, more reliable, and more useful every year. And the choice is amazing. You can get whatever you want (for the most part). In 1970 fast was slow, gas mileage was terrible, reliability terrible, and cars fell apart leaving the factory. No comparison.
^^^THIS^^^

Nostalgia tends to make us only remember the good parts of an experience and not the bad and more truly defining parts.

The OP's original question/post is an example of OGS (Old Geezer Syndrome), which is the phenomenon of an individual falsely believing (even when faced with evidence to the contrary) that everything was better in the past and that all present and future changes will only result in the degradation of the status quo and ultimately, regression.
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