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Except everything from the plastic your phone is made of to the asphalt your car drives on is from petrol products.
I don't think I'm hearing the point you're trying to make.
Such materials can be recycled, and there are already programs to do so, whether for raw materials or simply donating. Liquid petroleum fuels are consumed and only gas byproducts released.
I don't think I'm hearing the point you're trying to make.
Such materials can be recycled, and there are already programs to do so, whether for raw materials or simply donating. Liquid petroleum fuels are consumed and only gas byproducts released.
Asphault and plastic is a by product of refining oil, hence the reason it’s cheap to the point it’s taken for granted. No asphault (or expensive asphault) means you have to pave all roads with a more expensive and possibly more environmentally unfriendly material.
I don't think I'm hearing the point you're trying to make.
Such materials can be recycled, and there are already programs to do so, whether for raw materials or simply donating. Liquid petroleum fuels are consumed and only gas byproducts released.
Remember the recycle rates of any material are a tiny fraction of what is actually created from new raw materials. While there are recycle programs, in reality they’re typically more expensive than using fresh resources. The recycled material is far more expensive and less available which would drive up the cost of everything else. The last thing you want to do is penalize the resource that and industry that is making the products people are using at the prices people are used to paying. As soon as prices go up, those politicians get voted out of office and that idea dies anyway. People are fine with saving the planet but they’re not going to sacrifice their own lifestyle for it.
'' Those EVs with a 300 mile range have a 150 mile range during winter. That 300 range battery is not cheap and you're basically lugging it around just to cure range anxiety. It's the ultimate in gluttonous waste of resources ''.
I just read up on the Tesla Model 3. It will not be for the average person. At about $59,000 fully optioned out. That includes the $9000 longer range battery, and thats only in the 310 mile range. And dont look for the prices to come waaay down as you might be thinking. Not to mention the 240v home charger setup that will be needed, that can be from $500 - thousands to have installed. It will be a niche market at best. When they get a 1000 mile range and cost about $25,000, call me.
'' Those EVs with a 300 mile range have a 150 mile range during winter. That 300 range battery is not cheap and you're basically lugging it around just to cure range anxiety. It's the ultimate in gluttonous waste of resources ''.
I just read up on the Tesla Model 3. It will not be for the average person. At about $59,000 fully optioned out. That includes the $9000 longer range battery, and thats only in the 310 mile range. And dont look for the prices to come waaay down as you might be thinking. Not to mention the 240v home charger setup that will be needed, that can be from $500 - thousands to have installed. It will be a niche market at best. When they get a 1000 mile range and cost about $25,000, call me.
I'm not looking forward to EVs becoming more popular. Power companies already have "summer rates" and "peak usage rates" to gouge customers when a/c use is heavy mid-day. Now we'll have a second window at night when everyone's EV is plugged in...
Tesla owes a lot of money to creditors. In the coming year, November 2018 and then March 2019, they owe $1 billion in bonds. They have never made a profit. Its future is uncertain.
There are still fundamental problems with electric cars. A lot of people park on the street or in communal garages. Also, how about people who are traveling?
Friend of mine plays hockey in the KHL and told me this past season they played a Chinese team in a nice big city in China (I forget the name) said the city only allowed electric cars. Was weird as you get used to cars/trucks making noise in every city, was a soft buzzing sound at most. Too quiet compared to everything he’s been used to. China’s already started it.
Yeah until batteries/charging is greatly improved it's going to be a long time before they become common in someplace like Montana. But for most of the population? It could certainly make sense for one of the family cars to be an EV for the daily commute. Short suburb/city trips are where they excel and that covers a whole heck of a lot of people.
I do not want to be crammed back into a sedan. I will drive my SUV before I go back to an uncomfortable small sedan.
I do not want to be crammed back into a sedan. I will drive my SUV before I go back to an uncomfortable small sedan.
It’s called a Tesla model X, it’s been around for years. Seats 7 maybe? Oh, and it’s fricken quick.
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