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Old 07-23-2018, 03:14 PM
 
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Target level of risk. Psychologically every person has a level of risk that they’re comfortable with. For drivers it's the speed they feel comfortable driving.
A variety of automobiles tested by the same driver would likely all have different speeds at which the driver would be comfortable.

Likewise, a variety of drivers testing the same automobile would likely all have different speeds at which they felt comfortable.

The search of a "solid" car - one that doesn't sound like it would fall apart at highway speed - gives a false sense of security. Fit and finish can feign stability in other components essential to handling, acceleration, and braking.

We drive among cars with lesser abilities than our own, we drive among cars with greater abilities than our own. We drive among cars with disproportionate abilities (the guy who supercharged his mustang but didn't upgrade the brakes, doing mini 1/4 mile competitions on the interstate in between beeps on his radar detector.

Speed limits, for an attentive driver, who keeps a reasonable following distance (a lot to ask for some), can buy reaction time to avoid a lot of accidents. Not to say 75 in a 65 should get the death penalty, but it can be the difference between stopping before hitting a car, and... not being able to.
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Old 07-23-2018, 07:34 PM
 
Location: Central Texas
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If you are driving the speed limit in the right lane then the person tailgating you is the problem. If you are driving the speed limit in the left lane, then you are the problem. There's room for everyone on the road, fast and slow driver alike, if we all stick to our lanes.

Only if you are of the opinion that for some reason the speed limit does not apply in the left lane as well as it does in all other lanes (you're wrong), or that traffic laws do not apply to you. Yes, there is a slower traffic keep right law, and it should be obeyed. There is ALSO (something people who obsess on other people being in front of them in the left lane either simply cannot conceive of or want desperately to ignore, based on their words/actions) a speed limit law, and it should be obeyed.



If we all obey BOTH laws, then there is no problem. If someone disobeys the speed limit law and comes up behind someone in ANY lane obeying the speed limit law, the person breaking the speed limit law is the instigating factor in the problem. You can't get out of that fact no matter how much you might want to. And apparently there are quite a few who really really really want to, because they clearly want everyone else to obey the law that gets cars out of their own way so they can break another law.
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Old 07-23-2018, 07:36 PM
 
Location: Central Texas
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Please stop twisting around people's posts?

Didn't twist at all. Just said in plain English what was described.
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Old 07-23-2018, 07:37 PM
 
Location: Central Texas
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Which is the way all speed limits should be. If it was up to me I would paint every single speed limit sign in the country yellow, to make them advisory only.

The hallmark of the lousy driver who thinks they're an excellent driver. Might as well have big red "L" on your forehead.
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Old 07-23-2018, 07:42 PM
 
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Only if you are of the opinion that for some reason the speed limit does not apply in the left lane as well as it does in all other lanes (you're wrong), or that traffic laws do not apply to you. Yes, there is a slower traffic keep right law, and it should be obeyed. There is ALSO (something people who obsess on other people being in front of them in the left lane either simply cannot conceive of or want desperately to ignore, based on their words/actions) a speed limit law, and it should be obeyed.



If we all obey BOTH laws, then there is no problem. If someone disobeys the speed limit law and comes up behind someone in ANY lane obeying the speed limit law, the person breaking the speed limit law is the instigating factor in the problem. You can't get out of that fact no matter how much you might want to. And apparently there are quite a few who really really really want to, because they clearly want everyone else to obey the law that gets cars out of their own way so they can break another law.
False, because if you are rear-ended in the left lane, it is still the car's fault with the front-end damage.
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Old 07-24-2018, 03:39 AM
 
Location: Oregon Coast
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While the pickup driver should have moved on and over, the Camaro driver was the idiot driver here. When the Camaro tries to move left the first time, the pickup is behind another car. The pickup couldn't go any faster. Then the Camaro tries to move into a lane with no room.

I bet if the Camaro would have just backed off a little and waited it out, everything would have been fine. But he wanted to be aggressive and possibly kill people. He certainly ruined a lot of vehicles and I'm sure there were injuries.
None of which would have happened if not for the wannabe traffic cop in the left lane.
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Old 07-24-2018, 03:49 AM
 
Location: Oregon Coast
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Even the ones in a SCHOOL ZONE? You say those should be advisory and just let you pick your own speed as kids cross the street? How about neighborhoods? Most people ignore those anyway.

Of course, why stop there? Most traffic signs are annoying anyway. Plus stopping at an intersection slows you down even more.
Yes, people should drive the same way in a School Zone, they would drive five blocks away on a residential street with a lot of kids playing in the street. It's common sense. School Zones are just another scam to collect revenue. Most speeding tickets in school zones are written in the middle of the day, while the kids are in class, and there is not a kid on the street.
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Old 07-24-2018, 06:38 AM
 
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Only if you are of the opinion that for some reason the speed limit does not apply in the left lane as well as it does in all other lanes (you're wrong), or that traffic laws do not apply to you. Yes, there is a slower traffic keep right law, and it should be obeyed. There is ALSO (something people who obsess on other people being in front of them in the left lane either simply cannot conceive of or want desperately to ignore, based on their words/actions) a speed limit law, and it should be obeyed.



If we all obey BOTH laws, then there is no problem. If someone disobeys the speed limit law and comes up behind someone in ANY lane obeying the speed limit law, the person breaking the speed limit law is the instigating factor in the problem. You can't get out of that fact no matter how much you might want to. And apparently there are quite a few who really really really want to, because they clearly want everyone else to obey the law that gets cars out of their own way so they can break another law.
If we stick to our lanes then I can think what I want about the speed limit and you can think what you want and we can all live happily ever after. At least, happier than we'd be if we were either stuck behind a left lane camper or being tailgated by a speed demon.
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Old 07-24-2018, 06:47 AM
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Location: Upstate
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Yes, people should drive the same way in a School Zone, they would drive five blocks away on a residential street with a lot of kids playing in the street. It's common sense. School Zones are just another scam to collect revenue. Most speeding tickets in school zones are written in the middle of the day, while the kids are in class, and there is not a kid on the street.
Most school zones operate from 8 to 9.30am and from 2.30 to 4pm. However, there are a small number of non-standard school zone times which are identified by red/orange school zone signs showing the times when school zone flashing lights operate. I'm sure this varies a bit by state, but in general is the rule.
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Old 07-24-2018, 09:27 AM
 
Location: Oregon Coast
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Most school zones operate from 8 to 9.30am and from 2.30 to 4pm. However, there are a small number of non-standard school zone times which are identified by red/orange school zone signs showing the times when school zone flashing lights operate. I'm sure this varies a bit by state, but in general is the rule.
Nonsense. Most are all day long. Here in Oregon they are 7AM - 5PM, and the cops are writing tickets from 10AM to 2PM, when there are no kids outside. We have a lot of rural schools out on the highways. There no way any kid could walk to those. Because they are in the middle of nowhere, and they are off the highway anyway. But all the traffic on the highway has to slow from 55 mph to 20 mph for a school you can't even see from the highway, and there are always state police cars there, to ticket the tourists who don't expect to have to slow down in the middle of nowhere, for no reason. It's just another revenue scam the government uses.

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