U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Automotive
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
Reply Start New Thread
 
Old 08-02-2018, 09:31 PM
 
Location: Montgomery County, PA
14,590 posts, read 9,653,546 times
Reputation: 12119

Advertisements

Quote:
Originally Posted by johnnytang24 View Post
The Dodge Promaster is a FWD van.

I could see this doing well with painters, supers, handymen, lawn guys, etc. Basically anyone that carries awkward but not heavy equipment. Pretty much like the old Ranger.

I know there are people here that say it's not a real pickup or it has no utility because real men use their pickup to haul 26,000 lbs up 8% grade washed out dirt roads, but in the real world, there is certainly people who will value the smaller size, better fuel, all while still being able to load dirty things in the back.
The contracting world will never look the same after the Econoline. Ladders overhanging these little transit "trucks" are comical.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

 
Old 08-02-2018, 09:32 PM
 
Location: Montgomery County, PA
14,590 posts, read 9,653,546 times
Reputation: 12119
Quote:
Originally Posted by Elliott_CA View Post
Actually the Nissan Frontier is a mid-size truck now. They used to be smaller, years ago, but got upsized. There is no small compact truck on the market today. The new Ranger is a mid-size.
Frontier is closest to what Dakota once was, maybe still a little smaller.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 08-02-2018, 10:37 PM
 
5,354 posts, read 2,780,052 times
Reputation: 9950
Quote:
Originally Posted by easy62 View Post
Yes american automakers do know whatís sell and they did have the Ranger and the S-10 small pickups but guess what they did not sell. They are not going to retool an assembly plant to sell them to the few people who still want them. They have to sell over a 100,000 a month to make it worth while and the sales are not there for that size pickup again at least for the big3 automakers. The new Ranger is going to be bigger than the older version. They build what the people want and full size pickups are it. And do you think that Ford or GM would of stop making them if they were selling well.
I did not limit the word ďmanufacturerĒ only to American-headquartered brands. Nor do millions of other buyers.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 08-03-2018, 03:52 AM
 
2,112 posts, read 3,851,070 times
Reputation: 2596
Quote:
Originally Posted by HappyRider View Post
The contracting world will never look the same after the Econoline. Ladders overhanging these little transit "trucks" are comical.
The Transit is a full size van. The Transitconnect is that minivan looking thing, and their popularity suggests that there is a market for smaller utility vehicles.

I have a Transit and it's way nicer than the Econoline in just about every way except looks. Better mpg, more spacious, better handling, etc. The Ecoboost engine is amazing.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 08-03-2018, 04:54 AM
 
Location: Metro Detroit Michigan
4,225 posts, read 1,267,624 times
Reputation: 3413
Quote:
Originally Posted by HappyRider View Post
Frontier is closest to what Dakota once was, maybe still a little smaller.
The Frontier never came with a 5.2 V8 like the Dakota did and the Dakota was a bigger midsize pickup.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 08-03-2018, 05:10 AM
 
Location: Metro Detroit Michigan
4,225 posts, read 1,267,624 times
Reputation: 3413
Quote:
Originally Posted by pikabike View Post
I did not limit the word “manufacturer” only to American-headquartered brands. Nor do millions of other buyers.

That about all you have expect Nissan and Toyota their isn’t any other small pickups manufacturer and their won’t be either because the demand for them is not strong enough. Don’t you think other manufacturers would be selling small compact pickups here if the market was strong enough, the market isn’t strong enough for other automakers to try and compete with the American pickup business they know they can’t compete wit the American automakers when it comes to making and selling a pickup truck, the sales numbers prove that. Just because you have a few thousand people who want a compact pickup isn’t going to persuade a automaker to start building a compact pickup. Americans want full size pickups the sales numbers prove that, the F150 has been the best selling vehicle in the world.

The Ford F-Series isn’t just the best-selling vehicle line in America, it's tops around the world.

According to data from market research firm JATO Dynamics, Ford sold 519,000 F-Series trucks globally in the first six months of 2017.

Granted, over 95 percent of them were sold in the United States, but the total puts it ahead of the Toyota Corolla, which rang up 472,000 sales worldwide, despite being more popular than the F-Series in many countries.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 08-03-2018, 07:26 AM
 
405 posts, read 182,783 times
Reputation: 657
Bring back the Subaru Brat!
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 08-03-2018, 07:53 AM
 
Location: San Ramon, Seattle, Anchorage, Reykjavik
2,211 posts, read 971,594 times
Reputation: 3072
Quote:
Originally Posted by johnnytang24 View Post
The Transit is a full size van. The Transitconnect is that minivan looking thing, and their popularity suggests that there is a market for smaller utility vehicles.

I have a Transit and it's way nicer than the Econoline in just about every way except looks. Better mpg, more spacious, better handling, etc. The Ecoboost engine is amazing.
I would agree. My father in law has one of the first full size Transit 350s, tows crawlers, front end loaders, etc all over the place. Tows well and still gets great mileage. His also is having zero corrosion issues. His previous Econoline E350 van started rusting on the body in 2 years and the frame was unrepairable in 7 years. That should not happen in the 21st century, even in the winter salt zone.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 08-03-2018, 07:55 AM
 
Location: San Ramon, Seattle, Anchorage, Reykjavik
2,211 posts, read 971,594 times
Reputation: 3072
Quote:
Originally Posted by easy62 View Post
That about all you have expect Nissan and Toyota their isnít any other small pickups manufacturer and their wonít be either because the demand for them is not strong enough. Donít you think other manufacturers would be selling small compact pickups here if the market was strong enough, the market isnít strong enough for other automakers to try and compete with the American pickup business they know they canít compete wit the American automakers when it comes to making and selling a pickup truck, the sales numbers prove that. Just because you have a few thousand people who want a compact pickup isnít going to persuade a automaker to start building a compact pickup. Americans want full size pickups the sales numbers prove that, the F150 has been the best selling vehicle in the world.

The Ford F-Series isnít just the best-selling vehicle line in America, it's tops around the world.

According to data from market research firm JATO Dynamics, Ford sold 519,000 F-Series trucks globally in the first six months of 2017.

Granted, over 95 percent of them were sold in the United States, but the total puts it ahead of the Toyota Corolla, which rang up 472,000 sales worldwide, despite being more popular than the F-Series in many countries.
Those number for the F-150 are certainly valid. Just remember, according to Ford's own sales numbers 50% of those truck sales are fleet, not to you and me. Most Corollas are sold individually. Fleet buyers buy on price. That's about it.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 08-03-2018, 08:27 AM
 
Location: Metro Detroit Michigan
4,225 posts, read 1,267,624 times
Reputation: 3413
Quote:
Originally Posted by Stonepa View Post
Those number for the F-150 are certainly valid. Just remember, according to Ford's own sales numbers 50% of those truck sales are fleet, not to you and me. Most Corollas are sold individually. Fleet buyers buy on price. That's about it.
Well a sale is a sale i don’t see a big demand for fleet sales of the Carolla also you know that the F150 has been the best selling vehicle in the USA for over 30 yrs even without fleet sales. I look at a sale as a sale regardless if it’s going to a company or the consumer it’s still a vehicle on the road and money in the bank for Ford. And it shows the popularity of full size pickups in the world.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Reply
Please update this thread with any new information or opinions. This open thread is still read by thousands of people, so we encourage all additional points of view.

Quick Reply
Message:

Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Automotive
Follow City-Data.com founder on our Forum or

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 09:02 AM.

© 2005-2019, Advameg, Inc. · Please obey Forum Rules · Terms of Use and Privacy Policy · Bug Bounty

City-Data.com - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35 - Top