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Problem with Chrysler products is that they don't ever know when to stop. Lots of cool ideas, but they insist on burdening them with untried technology and way too many variants.
Back in the 90s when the Sebring and its sisters were new, they offered 5 (!) different newly developed engines for a car with maybe 1/5 the sales volume of the comparable Toyota, which offered two well-proven engine choices. Guess who had more reliable engines? There was a 2.5L V6 and a 2.4L 4 cylinder that were within something like 5 HP of each other.
A friend of mine had a Dodge pickup whose shift lever (std. trans.) broke off in his hand. The only repair part listed was "Assembly, Transmission"!
The LH cars with their plastic high pressure fuel header that invariably split after a few years and spewed gasoline over the top of the hot engine.
The Dodge pickups where the distributor couldn't be removed with the engine in the car.
The truck engine with four overhead cams ("for better high rpm breathing" - in a truck engine - they told me) and about fifteen feet of timing chain, and camshafts made as friction welded assemblies of tubing and cams.
All the hardware underneath with the lousiest possible coatings, for that "insta-rust" experience, while the "underhood beautification committee" spends untold time energy and money getting all the connectors to point the same way (this is true).
Want to hear any more? As far as I am concerned, Xler products have long been cheap tinny poorly made pieces of garbage into which a bunch of marginally competent engineers and stylists have shoehorned any half-baked idea they could come up with and sell to whatever corporate entity has bought them this week.
Again, another guy stuck in the past. Go check out a 2018 or the new 2019 RAM. Test drive one. Or anything from 2011 on for that matter.
Again, another guy stuck in the past. Go check out a 2018 or the new 2019 RAM. Test drive one. Or anything from 2011 on for that matter.
What evidence do you have that the fundamental problems with Xler's design, validation, and manufacturing processes have been fixed? I know from personal inside experience what it was like for products up through about 2010 MY. The reliability rankings for those models were abysmal. Said reliability rankings have not significantly improved since then. In the absence of reliable inside info to the contrary, I am going to assume that the design, validation, and manufacturing processes that drive reliability have not suddenly become dramatically improved. These are things that a test drive will not tell you.
If on the other hand you have reliable inside information that things have changed, that would be well worth sharing with the group (to the extent possible). I'm ready to hear the good news. Until then I am going to assume that the junior engineers I knew in 2006 are now senior engineers, and the senior engineers I knew then are now engineering managers, and that it's still "situation normal, all..." well, you know.
Again, another guy stuck in the past. Go check out a 2018 or the new 2019 RAM. Test drive one. Or anything from 2011 on for that matter.
I used a 2016 Ram 1500 with a Hemi as a company truck while also having a F-150 (I think of the same year) with the 3.5L TT... The Ram was quick, no doubt about that, for what it was... But I felt like the F-150 had stronger pull and better acceleration.
Good V8 engine aside, I didn't really like anything about the Dodge... There was nothing to HATE about it, but not much to like either.
There are no more new Dodge trucks.
Thanks to Sergio Margionne the trucks produced by Chrysler or Fiat Chrysler are RAM trucks.
And the trucks being renamed Ram is one reason they’re trashy. What kind of jasper is attracted to the name Ram? Ram Bighorn? My God, it drips with juvenile idiocy.
What evidence do you have that the fundamental problems with Xler's design, validation, and manufacturing processes have been fixed? I know from personal inside experience what it was like for products up through about 2010 MY. The reliability rankings for those models were abysmal. Said reliability rankings have not significantly improved since then. In the absence of reliable inside info to the contrary, I am going to assume that the design, validation, and manufacturing processes that drive reliability have not suddenly become dramatically improved. These are things that a test drive will not tell you.
If on the other hand you have reliable inside information that things have changed, that would be well worth sharing with the group (to the extent possible). I'm ready to hear the good news. Until then I am going to assume that the junior engineers I knew in 2006 are now senior engineers, and the senior engineers I knew then are now engineering managers, and that it's still "situation normal, all..." well, you know.
I purchased a 2011 Big Horn crew cab 4x4 brand new in 2011. I am in MN the capital of road salt. I drive hard (especially since I have a HEMI ). I have 90,000 miles on her. I give the truck an overall grade of 8.5-9.0 out of 10. I had the all too common 3rd light water leak (EASY fix under warranty). Two sets of front tie rod ends. The body dents a lot easier than a tank chevy (RAM is light on its feet). I am still on the original brakes, but I do have front end shudder and am going to replace very soon. I have the HEMI tick going at start up (common exhaust leak). I am going to get that worked on as well. The only real complaint I have is the tie rods as that seems to be common problem. The HEMI 5.7..... LOVE it!
Just look at the RAM sales trend from 2011 to now. Do you think they would be gaining that much market share with a crap product?? Not a chance.
I would say 1st hand experience is pretty reliable information.
And the trucks being renamed Ram is one reason they’re trashy. What kind of jasper is attracted to the name Ram? Ram Bighorn? My God, it drips with juvenile idiocy.
If you want to see idiocy, try and stomach one of those "Chevy" "Chevy" "Chevy" commercials. #GAG
Seriously, what IQ level are they marketing too with that sh*t?
The Hemi puts out more horsepower than GM's 5.3 wheezer.
But they're about even in instrumented acceleration testing when comparably equipped. If the 5.3 is a wheezer, the 5.7 Hemi is on life support. The 5.7 Hemi is, and always has been, an over-hyped under achiever whether installed in cars or trucks.
But they're about even in instrumented acceleration testing when comparably equipped. If the 5.3 is a wheezer, the 5.7 Hemi is on life support. The 5.7 Hemi is, and always has been, an over-hyped under achiever whether installed in cars or trucks.
What evidence do you have that the fundamental problems with Xler's design, validation, and manufacturing processes have been fixed? I know from personal inside experience what it was like for products up through about 2010 MY. The reliability rankings for those models were abysmal. Said reliability rankings have not significantly improved since then. In the absence of reliable inside info to the contrary, I am going to assume that the design, validation, and manufacturing processes that drive reliability have not suddenly become dramatically improved. These are things that a test drive will not tell you.
If on the other hand you have reliable inside information that things have changed, that would be well worth sharing with the group (to the extent possible). I'm ready to hear the good news. Until then I am going to assume that the junior engineers I knew in 2006 are now senior engineers, and the senior engineers I knew then are now engineering managers, and that it's still "situation normal, all..." well, you know.
I have friends who work at the Sterling Heights assembly plant were the new Ram pickups are made they have all start of the are equipment on the assembly line it’s not like it was a couple years ago. Everyone is talking about the old Dodge the new Ram is a good pickup.
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). I have 90,000 miles on her. I give the truck an overall grade of 8.5-9.0 out of 10. I had the all too common 3rd light water leak (EASY fix under warranty). Two sets of front tie rod ends. The body dents a lot easier than a tank chevy (RAM is light on its feet). I am still on the original brakes, but I do have front end shudder and am going to replace very soon. I have the HEMI tick going at start up (common exhaust leak). I am going to get that worked on as well. The only real complaint I have is the tie rods as that seems to be common problem. The HEMI 5.7..... LOVE it!
