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Old 10-21-2018, 06:38 AM
 
Location: NJ
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Ford was very smart not to mess with the Mustang. It has had a run from 1964 to the present, and the only time they screwed up was with the Mustang II. (Glad to see that turd go away). They also milked the same platforms for years, look at the Fox, from 79-92, same basic car with minor changes.
You're right, the Mustang II was a dog. I had an 82 red manual one. Piece of cr@p. My father made me buy it because I was using too much gas with my 69.

When I think Mustang, I think my 67 Fastback with deluxe interior that I was restoring; I think of my 1st one 1969 Grande style or I think the pony cars which body style does nothing for me. The most popular are the fastback type and of course people think Shelby when you think old Mustang.


Mustangs 1st got killed in 1970 when they started to make them larger. 1969 has always been my "cut off" for a real Mustang. Then they went ultra small. Whoever designed the Mustangs around now did a decent job keeping them smallish yet making them resemble what people like in a Mustang. Heck, I've even seen a few that I would buy if I was able to get into a car.

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Something like that could be a Torino, a competitor to the Charger.
Torino would be a good name to bring back if they can retool the car to what people want today. Falcon is another popular Ford car. My dad owned a lot of them, they're still around. I think they could retool it and reuse the name.
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Old 10-21-2018, 09:01 AM
 
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But now Ford is getting rid of sedans except for the Mustang.
Fords sedans are not really that great. The Crown Vic is gone and their sedan line up is really small. Fiesta Focus Fusion, Taurus. C-max and Mustang. Everything else is a cross over or can easily be a sedan replacement.
Their car like up just isn’t competitive enough. Lots of these cross overs get good mpg with more creature comforts.
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Old 10-21-2018, 12:08 PM
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Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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I don't know. This would have never said "Mustang" to me. What has been cool is that the Mustang always kept some resemblance to it's roots.

I wish they would've pursued production of the Mustang I, no matter what they would've called it. A sub 2000 lb car with reasonable HP would be a blast.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Mustang_I
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Old 10-21-2018, 04:56 PM
 
Location: San Antonio
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Their car like up just isn’t competitive enough. Lots of these cross overs get good mpg with more creature comforts.
The Europeans are getting ground up new Ford sedans we’re not getting here and they seem to be acclaimed by European critics. I could dig the new 1.5 liter 3 cylinder turbo Fiesta ST they’re getting.

Dig this.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=KstSCu_Afeo
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Old 10-22-2018, 08:23 AM
 
Location: Maryland
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You're right, the Mustang II was a dog. I had an 82 red manual one. Piece of cr@p. My father made me buy it because I was using too much gas with my 69.
The '82 was a Fox body car, the Mustang II ended in '78 with the vastly better Fox cars arriving in '79.

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Mustangs 1st got killed in 1970 when they started to make them larger. 1969 has always been my "cut off" for a real Mustang.
The '69 and '70 models were identical except for grille and taillights. You're thinking of the '71-73 cars that cot larger (though they in fact were barely larger than the '69-70 cars, they just LOOKED larger due to the longer nose) . I had 3 1970 models, all fastbacks (a standard Sportsroof with a 302, a BOSS 302, and a Mach 1).

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Then they went ultra small.
Le Iacocca, father of the Mustang, decided in '69 to take it back to it's roots (a economical 6 cyl sporty car based on economy car underpinnings, since that's all the '64 1/2 Mustang was (a 6 cyl falcon with sporty bodywork), so they started work on the Mustang II, which arrived in dealerships the end of '73 as a '74 model, and it outsold all other Mustangs up to that point, with the exception of the original '64 1/2-'65 model.

As for the original question, the Probe was the "Mustang based off the Mazda MX6," and while it sold decent, the market for FWD sport coupes dried up pretty fast as the RWD sport coupes were simply dynamically better cars with better aftermarket potential. There used to be a lot of FWD sport coupes on the market, but all of them have gone away, even the perennial Accord coupe. But RWD sport coupes are still with us, with the Mustang, Camaro, Challenger, Toyota/Subaru GT86/BRZ, soon to be Supra, BMW 2 series and 4 series coupes, and yes, even the Nissan 370Z.
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Old 11-28-2018, 11:41 PM
 
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Fwd sport coupes were extremely popular in the 90s and that's what people bought. I had a MX6 and a Probe and was very happy with both cars.

However I will admit rear wheel drive cars are superior and that's why they are still sought out for.
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Old 11-29-2018, 01:26 AM
 
Location: Vancouver, B.C., Canada
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The Probe GT was supposed to head to head with the also discontinued Honda Prelude and Toyota Celica or the late 3rd and 4th genr FWD Mitsubishi Eclipse died off not soon after the Probe did so it would of flopped in the early 00's.

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Old 11-29-2018, 01:35 AM
 
Location: Vancouver, B.C., Canada
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8VgMdOybkz8
heck the 1999-2002 Mercury Cougar would of been the successor to the probe but it also failed to garner any sales as well could of been a fun car that matched the Acura RSX on the fun to drive scale with some SVT tuning.
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Old Yesterday, 08:31 PM
 
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The Europeans are getting ground up new Ford sedans we’re not getting here and they seem to be acclaimed by European critics. I could dig the new 1.5 liter 3 cylinder turbo Fiesta ST they’re getting.

Dig this.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=KstSCu_Afeo

For some reason it takes a act of god to get a euro version of a sedan. Look how long it took to get a Focus RS over here.
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Old Yesterday, 08:42 PM
 
Location: Metro Detroit Michigan
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Ford sedans are gone except the Mustang If Ford were to bring back a old name it would be a suv or cuv. They will not retool a plant to make another sdean they are done making sedans.
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