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Old 11-08-2018, 03:35 PM
 
Location: San Ramon, Seattle, Anchorage, Reykjavik
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Not on my watch.
I bet your great grandpa said the same this during the transition from horses to cars.
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Old 11-08-2018, 03:37 PM
 
Location: San Ramon, Seattle, Anchorage, Reykjavik
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Tesla does not. By 400K miles the Model S had two battery replacements. https://electrek.co/2018/07/17/tesla...miles-3-years/. The

Electric trucks are lame because they're designed to go anywhere yet you would have to be tied to an urban recharging network. The semi trucks are pretty much a lame gimmick. They require a "megacharger" that doesn't exist and only have a 500 mile range in optimal weather and road conditions. The center mounted driver's seat is just flat out retarded.
The center mounted seat can easily be removed when the trucks become fully autonomous. No driver needed at all.
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Old 11-08-2018, 03:38 PM
 
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Can't think of any single EV that makes sense, except as maybe a 2nd car to rich people.



GM is acting rather stupidly again - Check out the un-love for the Volt. Unless they fixed it for 2019 https://www.cnet.com/roadshow/review...-volt-preview/


^^ Long term reviews do not like the previous ones.
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Old 11-08-2018, 03:39 PM
 
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I bet your great grandpa said the same this during the transition from horses to cars.

Mine said "Get off my lawn" a few times.
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Old 11-08-2018, 03:40 PM
 
Location: San Ramon, Seattle, Anchorage, Reykjavik
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I suspect electric will rule the day sooner rather than later.


But in terms of environmental, yes I understand the reduction of green house gas and cleaner air, 110% for all of that. But, what happens to the dead batteries as they pile up? What happens to the power grid in general to recharge millions of cars every night? More nuclear power plants? Battery acid leaching into the ground water via mismanaged dumps? I'm not entirely sure this is an overall win-win situation?


But that torque. Oh the torque! And no more stupid "soup can" exhaust pipes blaring down the street!
(yes, I'm getting old, and you kids are too damn loud)...
No batteries will ever hit ‘dumps’. Way to valuable. They are and will continue to be recycled.
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Old 11-08-2018, 03:55 PM
 
Location: Maryland
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Can't think of any single EV that makes sense, except as maybe a 2nd car to rich people.



GM is acting rather stupidly again - Check out the un-love for the Volt. Unless they fixed it for 2019 https://www.cnet.com/roadshow/review...-volt-preview/


^^ Long term reviews do not like the previous ones.
My Volt is 5 years old now and just fine, thank you. I love this little commuter and I only use gas on long road trips. Most everyone I know of with them loves them. And I'm not a rich person. It's my primary car.
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Old 11-08-2018, 03:57 PM
 
Location: Podunk, IA
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The center mounted seat can easily be removed when the trucks become fully autonomous. No driver needed at all.
No easier load to hijack than the one with no driver that you can easily make stop.
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Old 11-08-2018, 03:57 PM
 
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My Volt is 5 years old now and just fine, thank you. I love this little commuter and I only use gas on long road trips. Most everyone I know of with them loves them. And I'm not a rich person. It's my primary car.

Okay



How many others you know have these?


https://www.consumeraffairs.com/auto...olet-volt.html
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Old 11-08-2018, 03:58 PM
 
Location: Maryland
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No batteries will ever hit ‘dumps’. Way to valuable. They are and will continue to be recycled.
Yup, and when they hit the end of their useful life in cars, they tend to get repurposed as battery backups for UPS systems in commercial settings.



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Old 11-08-2018, 04:05 PM
 
Location: Podunk, IA
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My Volt is 5 years old now and just fine, thank you. I love this little commuter and I only use gas on long road trips. Most everyone I know of with them loves them. And I'm not a rich person. It's my primary car.
i like the Volt a lot but unfortunately the feature set is a bit lacking.
The ELR solves that issue. Plus I think it's great looking.
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