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Old Yesterday, 03:37 PM
 
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Thanks for proving the point you are trying to dispute. The phone technology did not change. A cell signal for telephony is today almost the same as in 1995. Telephony signals use CDMA or TDMA. CDMA goes back to the 1960's and TDMA to 1990. Terms such as LTE, 4G, 5G are just iterations/improvements of CDMA or TDMA to allow transmission of non-voice data.

A voice only phone made today is almost identical to one made in 1995.
The only thing a voice phone has in common with a smartphone is they can both make calls.

I have a flip phone, but am fully aware that it's a dinosaur.
One big thing that's changed about them... put today's battery technology in a flip phone and it goes weeks on a charge.
Mine does. I expect something similar to happen with cars.

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Old Today, 03:02 AM
 
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A democracy that’s forecasting policies 20 election cycles into the future might as well mandate teleportation and cold fusion while they’re at it.
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Old Today, 03:27 AM
 
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And yet Norway is the largest EV market per capita.
They also have one of the largest bicycles per capita. That has nothing to do with cold weather performance and everything to do with the fact the country’s population is mostly urban and gas cars are heavily taxed.

Norway’s economy however is heavily dependent on oil. If everybody followed Norway’s example Norway would starve to death.
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Old Today, 04:44 AM
 
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Norway’s economy however is heavily dependent on oil. If everybody followed Norway’s example Norway would starve to death.
Norway is never going to starve to death.
They have the world's largest sovereign wealth fund. It's as if Cook County (Chicago) had a trillion bucks.

Their strategy is actually quite brilliant.
Unlike foolish Venezuela, they don't give away oil to their citizens.
They actively discourage its use (thus the bikes or anything that doesn't use gas) and sell it for cash, which is how their nation got so rich.
Norway want their citizens to use electricity, which is 98% hydro and fully sustainable.

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Old Today, 05:14 AM
 
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Norway is never going to starve to death.
They have the world's largest sovereign wealth fund. It's as if Cook County (Chicago) had a trillion bucks.

Their strategy is actually quite brilliant.
Unlike foolish Venezuela, they don't give away oil to their citizens.
They actively discourage its use and sell it for cash, which is how their nation got so rich.
Norway want their citizens to use electricity, which is 98% hydro and fully sustainable.
Sure they would, otherwise they wouldn’t be drilling for it. Where do you think those subsidies come from?

While stories like this get all the environmentally conscience excited, the truth of the matter is globally speaking, in order to survive both physically and economically, countries have to prioritize their own economy over the environment. Norway is no exception. Otherwise it’s like praising a drug lord for not doing drugs.

Keep in mind Norway’s entire population is only about a quarter of New York’s metropolitan area so 98% of the entire country doing anything isn’t really all that remarkable.
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Old Today, 05:57 AM
 
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Sure they would, otherwise they wouldn’t be drilling for it. Where do you think those subsidies come from?
They drill for it, but don't use it. They could have dirt cheap gas, but they're smart. Being smart got them uber rich.
It just happens to be environmentally conscious at the same time.

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Keep in mind Norway’s entire population is only about a quarter of New York’s metropolitan area so 98% of the entire country doing anything isn’t really all that remarkable.
They are doing something remarkable.
They're playing the long game, something most governments know absolutely nothing about.
If or when the oil runs out, they'll be just fine because they've got so much money. They'll be able to live off investments.

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Old Today, 08:31 AM
 
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It means nothing. As the deadline approaches, they will just make a new one, or provide endless waivers. This is just a feel good, pat on the back nonsense.
This^^

It won't happen. If they do hold to it, people will just drive a few hours out of BC to buy a car.

As has been mentioned, EV's are not 100% friendly with the environment either. As the sales of EV's increase, a whole new set of problems will arise which will prevent them from ever completely taking over the market. We will still be buying and driving gasoline powered vehicles 40 years from now.
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Old Today, 08:39 AM
 
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Cars and trucks sold in B.C. will all be zero emission by 2040

VICTORIA — All light-duty cars and trucks sold in British Columbia will be required to be zero-emission vehicles by 2040.

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Source: Automotive News Canada - Tuesday, November 20, 2018 @ 9:25 pm

Interesting. Will this be just for consumers ? What will they dictated for Police and Fire ? Taxi fleets ? Logistics and Expediting companies ? Since they stated light duty trucks there will still be infrastructure to support the medium and heavy duty ones..I'm assuming.
How will they offset the lost revenue that gas/diesel is providing ? Supposedly .50 cents on every gallon (litre ?) goes to taxes.


The population of BC is 4.8 million. Assuming half that are vehicle owners, 2 million EVs will be needed. About the same amount that are in use globally. It' sure is going to be a boon for the EV companies. B.C., Spain , France all have this same deadline.


https://dailycaller.com/2018/04/29/v...north-america/
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Old Today, 09:45 AM
 
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And a new contender in the light duty EV truck market emerges...


https://www.greencarreports.com/news...harging/page-2


So it claims a 400 mile range with the bigger kw motor, is that towing the maximum load ? Just curious , and all that for $90k.


This truck hasn't gone thru any federal safety tests either, so it's at least two years from hitting the market. Seems like we still have a long ways to go to get a truck that is closer to $50k, that can tow 10k-12k lbs with a 500 mile range. What do people think ? 2 years, 5 ? Or more ?
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Old Today, 09:56 AM
 
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A democracy that’s forecasting policies 20 election cycles into the future might as well mandate teleportation and cold fusion while they’re at it.

It's easy to make promises somebody else is going to have to keep (and pay for). I suspect BC will find it's not a large enough market to drive worldwide automotive engineering. If the auto industry can develop a feasible zero emissions solution they will provide it world wide but if not then BC can get around on bicycles.
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