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GM was building some of the best trucks ever made. The 1999 through 2006 Silverado and Sierra are almost bullet proof. Mine has almost 500,000 miles on it and it is my daily driver. I also have a Tahoe with around 240,000 that has been excellent. Now the NBS 2007 Tahoe I had was a POS. The Trailblazer we had was a POS. My brother had a malibu that was a POS. They insist on putting that crap active fuel managment on everything and it sucks so we no longer buy GM vehicles. I am going with Toyota. They have manufacturing plants here and somehow they can keep their quality high. Chrysler has always been and still is crap. I will never own one of their products. Ford has screwed most everything they make up with the eco engines. They even screwed their diesel powerstroke engines up and they used to be incredibly reliable and long lasting.
They produce cars and trucks and soon become aware of widespread issues. What do they do? They try to deflect until the warranty period runs out and then it is the owners problem. I had my fill of it and will no longer support them. As far as I am concerned, all three can go bankrupt.
They started putting Active Fuel Management on the corvettes now too, including the Z06. Can you believe they even put it on the Z06? It has had all sorts of issues too since it is the same junk AFM on the trucks and some cars. Who the hell buys a Z06 and wants something that increases the fuel mileage very minimally if at all and the trade off is less horsepower due to the special cam, lifters and tuning? Whoever made the call to put that crap on the Vettes is an absolute idiot.
When GM learns of a problem they just sweep it under a rug. They did this with their bad intake gaskets and they did it with their oil burning 2.4 ecotec engines. The blow the problem off as “normal” until the warranty expires and then tell you you’re SOL.
At least with Toyota if something is a common enough problem they will offer to extend the warranty on it, because they know it makes a loyal customer. My Tacoma is 11 years old with over 106k miles on it, yet Toyota just replaced all three of my universal joints free of charge under a warranty extension. The big 3 would never do that.
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When GM learns of a problem they just sweep it under a rug. They did this with their bad intake gaskets and they did it with their oil burning 2.4 ecotec engines. The blow the problem off as “normal” until the warranty expires and then tell you you’re SOL.
At least with Toyota if something is a common enough problem they will offer to extend the warranty on it, because they know it makes a loyal customer. My Tacoma is 11 years old with over 106k miles on it, yet Toyota just replaced all three of my universal joints free of charge under a warranty extension. The big 3 would never do that.
It only took a class action law suit, but sure, they made it right.
They all do the same things, to think they don't is just being niave.
My wife's diesel Cruze has emission components that have had the warranties extended by GM to 125K miles, including the most expensive component, the DEF tank.
My wife's diesel Cruze has emission components that have had the warranties extended by GM to 125K miles, including the most expensive component, the DEF tank.
So, never say never...
GM trucks with the LB7 Duramax diesel had an extended warranty on the injectors for 10 years because they were known to have a flawed design.
I think I forgot: It is time for the Big Three to collude with the government to kick ALL foreign automakers OUT of America!!! But that isn't far enough. Both parties should literally CRUSH all foreign cars AT THE OWNER'S EXPENSE!!! If you are one of the unfortunate souls in this country to have fallen for a hybrid, you will have it the worst. If both the Big Three and the government collude to crush all foreign cars at the owner's expense (the ENTIRE MSRP of the vehicle), hybrid owners should face an EXTRA $7500 charge ON TOP of the car's purchase price!!!
If you want to continue to ignore my points as the original poster, here's an idea: PACK YOUR BAGS, AND MOVE TO JAPAN/KOREA!!! American cars are NOT unreliable, AS LONG as you keep on top of maintenance!!!
At least with Toyota if something is a common enough problem they will offer to extend the warranty on it, because they know it makes a loyal customer. My Tacoma is 11 years old with over 106k miles on it, yet Toyota just replaced all three of my universal joints free of charge under a warranty extension. The big 3 would never do that.
Don't make me laugh. The wife and I have had multiple Toyota's, and we've, for the most part, been very happy with them, but they have had their share of screw-ups over the years.
Remember the engine sludge debacle of the mid-2000s? Toyota sure didn't offer to extend the warranty on that one. They instead said it was the customer's fault, until the lawsuit hit.
Truck and SUV frame rot, also took a lawsuit to get Toyota to make it right.
Oil consumption? There's another lawsuit. Toyota made it right, only afterward.
I think I forgot: It is time for the Big Three to collude with the government to kick ALL foreign automakers OUT of America!!! But that isn't far enough. Both parties should literally CRUSH all foreign cars AT THE OWNER'S EXPENSE!!! If you are one of the unfortunate souls in this country to have fallen for a hybrid, you will have it the worst. If both the Big Three and the government collude to crush all foreign cars at the owner's expense (the ENTIRE MSRP of the vehicle), hybrid owners should face an EXTRA $7500 charge ON TOP of the car's purchase price!!!
If you want to continue to ignore my points as the original poster, here's an idea: PACK YOUR BAGS, AND MOVE TO JAPAN/KOREA!!! American cars are NOT unreliable, AS LONG as you keep on top of maintenance!!!
If you're seriously trying to help the American automakers, you aren't doing a very good job.
I want to know what about those of us who LIKE sedans? Where do we go? My first car was a sedan and I'd like another. But it's getting to where there will soon be no choice. I never liked the Blazer that much, or the Equinox, Escape, etc. I'd rather have a minivan, that has more versatility. But everyone says "eew, you can't drive a minivan, those are ugly." And fewer and fewer are being made these days. And I don't even get the disdain for minivans honestly, I'd rather have one than most of these new vehicles. You can get a way nicer minivan for the price of most other vehicles, and it can haul way more cargo also.
If I was getting an SUV I'd really prefer something like a Tahoe or an Explorer. A true 3 row SUV. I just like them better than the little SUVs. But they're too expensive and not fuel efficient like a sedan. To me the small SUV was what people got when they really wanted the full size SUV but couldn't go for it at the moment. It was usually the one they had before they traded up to an Expedition or Tahoe.
I wouldn't mind a crew cab truck. But 1 they're big and 2 they are very expensive and you can get a very well equipped sedan for much less than a truck with similar option and trim level. And again, the fuel issue. So again, that puts them out of the running.
So that puts me in the predicament where I either have to buy a CUV or small SUV that I have no interest in driving or owning, or try to find a mid size sedan in the ever shrinking sedan segment. Or find a minivan in the also ever shrinking segment which also comes with that ridiculous stigma that it's an "eew, minivan".
It's not such a big deal now, as there are still a number of sedans being made for the immediate time being, and used ones should be around for a few more years. But it will eventually become an issue to find a decent one.
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