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Old 01-06-2019, 08:54 PM
 
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Traffic has to "flow" on those cross-streets, as well.

As for the original topic, no. But, then I'm biased by having totaled a car when a truck with his landscape trailer made a turn right in front of me at a permissive light.

And the more you attempt to take judgment out of the equation, the worse their judgment gets.You will never be able to control every crossing of paths. Shall we place a signal control at the end of every driveway?
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Old 01-06-2019, 08:55 PM
 
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The flashing yellow is fine for roads with low traffic volume or during periods of low traffic volume on busier roads that only have two lanes need to be crossed. Green is needed on busy roads to initially allow vehicles to clear the turn lane freely (The odds of someone deciding to attempt something wreckless increase by every few seconds they are forced to wait). The red is needed at busy intersections.
By "Green" do you mean Green Arrow??
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Old 01-07-2019, 03:08 AM
 
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I've only seen and experienced ONE Michigan left turn, and I hate it.

As for flashing light during low traffic times.
I've LOVE to see more flashing yellow, flashing red signals during over night hours...say midnight to 5.am. (Hours could vary depending on location, of course.)

I do a fair amount of overnight and wee-hours-of-the-morning driving. Most times I'm the only one on the street. So who am I waiting for to cross the intersection? What am I waiting for? I'm sitting there wasting my time.
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Old 01-07-2019, 08:55 AM
 
Location: Eugene, Oregon
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Ive noticed alot more left hand turn traffic lights are now flashing yellow, instead of the red arrow, meaning, if its safe to make the left hand turn, go ahead and do it, instead of needlessly waiting for the light to cycle and get a green arrow.


Nothing bothers me more on the road than having to sit idle for no reason whatsoever, Ive been in plenty of left hand turn lanes, where you do have to wait for the green arrow to go, and majority of the time, the whole time you are sitting there with a red arrow, they are plenty of safe opportunities to make the turn.
Outlawing all left turns, is the better solution. Go a block past an intersection, make three right turns and then go straight across the intersection.
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Old 01-07-2019, 09:31 AM
 
Location: Houston/Brenham
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Outlawing all left turns, is the better solution. Go a block past an intersection, make three right turns and then go straight across the intersection.
That's not a good universal solution. There are some very busy intersections that allow left turns, some from two lanes there is so much traffic. Putting all that traffic into a local neighborhood, or worse, into a corner shopping center, would create massive headaches--accidents and more.
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Old 01-07-2019, 09:42 AM
 
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Some roads/intersections are busy during certain times of day and not during others. There is no reason the lights can't use variable traffic-sensitive cycles to provide yellows when traffic is light and red/green when it is not.
I would guess money is probably the reason, eh?
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Old 01-07-2019, 09:43 AM
 
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And the more you attempt to take judgment out of the equation, the worse their judgment gets.You will never be able to control every crossing of paths. Shall we place a signal control at the end of every driveway?
Not sure what you're trying to say. There are intersections where it works and intersections where it doesn't.
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Old 01-07-2019, 09:54 AM
 
Location: Coastal, NC
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That's not a good universal solution. There are some very busy intersections that allow left turns, some from two lanes there is so much traffic. Putting all that traffic into a local neighborhood, or worse, into a corner shopping center, would create massive headaches--accidents and more.

I guess some one missed the sarcasm that 3 rights make a left.
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Old 01-07-2019, 10:33 AM
 
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Not sure what you're trying to say. There are intersections where it works and intersections where it doesn't.
It would work at almost every intersection, the only exception would be intersections where visibility is an issue, and those attempting to turn cannot see oncoming traffic, but those kinds are rare.


If drivers cannot use this basic common sense( to turn when no cars are coming), maybe we need to change the way we train drivers?!


This also could be from the old days, when there was some corruption, in relation to timing traffic control devices, so drivers waste as much fuel as possible, I know this happened to some degree.
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Old 01-07-2019, 10:43 AM
 
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I do. What I do not like is that the city configures them that way with no warning.
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