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Old 01-26-2019, 10:47 PM
 
Location: NYC
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My Honda Odyssey 2010 has only 250HP, my sister recently bought a 2018 model and it has 280HP. The new Sienna has 295HP, and the Chrysler Pacifica makes 287HP.

It's insane how much power minivans has these days yet majority of minivans I see on the highway barely going past 60mph.

I did test drove my sister's Odyssey and the low end torque has been beefed up, I didn't take on the highway but it's just nuts how much power minivans have these days that are basically sports car territory.
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Old 01-26-2019, 10:59 PM
 
Location: BFE
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Just wait till the tail-fins come back into fashion. They'll be ENORMOUS!
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Old 01-26-2019, 11:10 PM
 
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Anything over 200 is really overkill for most vehicles, other than the rare times you might need to accelerate quickly on the Interstate when else do you really need a lot power? My car has 200HP and there is plenty of get up go if you need it.



Just for some reference every vehicle you mentioned has more horsepower than mid/late 80's Corvette. Not great comparison but those vehicles would extremely powerful in the 80's.


That said I'd be happy to have 300HP vehicle.
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Old 01-26-2019, 11:11 PM
 
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Just wait till the tail-fins come back into fashion. They'll be ENORMOUS!

The way they are going now maybe we will get that flying car.
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Old 01-27-2019, 02:23 PM
 
Location: NYC
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I do have to admit that my Odyssey handles as good as many sedans on the curve. Double wishbone suspension.
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Old 01-27-2019, 02:37 PM
 
Location: Aurora Denveralis
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I bought my 2000 Odyssey because it had significantly more power than any competitor. I wasn't looking to drag race, but I hate cars that can't get out of their own way... and minivans already had/have that reputation. With four people and luggage or groceries, 150HP just won't do it.

My '07 has substantially more power, which just makes it that much more driveable in the real world. Most minivans now have 6-7-8 speed transmissions geared for economy, so it can be hard to get the power to the ground the way you can in a "sports coupe" or whatever. My solution is to hit the OD-kill button, which kicks the trans out of any double or triple overdrive and lets me accelerate like a much more interesting car.

BTW, I concur with vision33r - I love the ride and handling of both my Ody's. Far more like a big sports sedan than anything boxy or trucky.
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Old 01-27-2019, 04:47 PM
 
Location: Vallejo
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Problem is the nannies. It's good for what it is in sweepers. In tight corners it drives more like a bread truck. Honestly, I doubt that matters to anyone buying a minivan.

The other problem is of course weight. Physics is physics. It might have an extra 100 HP over the firebreathing Miata, but that hundred hp but it weighs twice as much. So it's slower by quite a bit. There's not many sports cars left. Even looking out at sporty cars, 280 isn't that much these days. There's 350 in the baby Porsche these days and 335 in the 2-series (405 in the M2). That's pretty normal for small sporty cars these days aside from the Miata or Toyaburu.

Neither of those really matter to minivan buyers. They don't buy them to autocross or dominate stop lights, which is good because they're quite poor at doing either. Go get a GL63 if that's what you want. More the stop lights. They still don't handle that well, but they're quick with a third row that's actually usable by normal sized adults. Way less practical than a minivan and, ehem, rather pricey.
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Old 01-27-2019, 05:15 PM
 
Location: Not far from Fairbanks, AK
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Problem is the nannies. It's good for what it is in sweepers. In tight corners it drives more like a bread truck. Honestly, I doubt that matters to anyone buying a minivan.

The other problem is of course weight. Physics is physics. It might have an extra 100 HP over the firebreathing Miata, but that hundred hp but it weighs twice as much. So it's slower by quite a bit. There's not many sports cars left. Even looking out at sporty cars, 280 isn't that much these days. There's 350 in the baby Porsche these days and 335 in the 2-series (405 in the M2). That's pretty normal for small sporty cars these days aside from the Miata or Toyaburu.

Neither of those really matter to minivan buyers. They don't buy them to autocross or dominate stop lights, which is good because they're quite poor at doing either. Go get a GL63 if that's what you want. More the stop lights. They still don't handle that well, but they're quick with a third row that's actually usable by normal sized adults. Way less practical than a minivan and, ehem, rather pricey.
In the interior of Alaska it's hard to beat the Sienna SE AWD. It handless quite well on ice and snow. Some of the local automobile dealers use Sienna minivans as shuttles for their service customers. I imagine that minivan buyers are interested on the amount of sitting room inside the van.
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Old 01-27-2019, 05:40 PM
 
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My Honda Odyssey 2010 has only 250HP, my sister recently bought a 2018 model and it has 280HP. The new Sienna has 295HP, and the Chrysler Pacifica makes 287HP.

It's insane how much power minivans has these days yet majority of minivans I see on the highway barely going past 60mph.

I did test drove my sister's Odyssey and the low end torque has been beefed up, I didn't take on the highway but it's just nuts how much power minivans have these days that are basically sports car territory.
Call me when they got 610hp like my Vette does. Anything under 450hp don't cut it for me.
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Old 01-27-2019, 05:43 PM
 
Location: Metro Detroit Michigan
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Call me when they got 610hp like my Vette does. Anything under 450hp don't cut it for me.
Here we go again with the Vette again you bring it up on every topic you post on so what you have a Vette you think we care.
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