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Old 02-02-2019, 07:55 PM
 
Location: Aurora Denveralis
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Well, they're a bunch of old white guys, so it's not too hard to figure out who they're for.
I'm one of the younger old white guys and I'm 60 years old!
This goes back quite a ways... let's just say greasy knuckles and red necks tend to go together, at least until you get to the ricer/drifter crowd.

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It does make me wonder what's going to happen to all of these old cars in the future.
I think most will be scrapped; only the truly exceptional ones will be kept. There will be exemptions for fuel-burning cars for a long, long time, though. And, of course, things like CNG/propane conversions, and electric conversions.

I predict the first electric motor that looks just like a Chevy small block for... 2031.
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Old 02-02-2019, 09:25 PM
 
Location: NYC
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EVs will end car culture for future generations. Autonomous driving will essentially eliminate car culture because car ownership will go down for sure.
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Old 02-02-2019, 09:45 PM
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Location: Naples FL
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Only about a dozen mint original XR4Tis exist.

Few exist because they're not worth much and break frequently.
I drive it about 1K miles a year and have yet to get though a car show season without it having an issue.
At least it's easier to get parts now. Before the internet it was almost impossible, which is why they all went away.
Iíd imagine with the millions of old Sierras in Europe parts would be pretty easy in the age of the internet. I saw a ( rarest Merkur ever) Scorpio wagon a few years ago....
The XR4Ti would be a great project car if you could pick up a rust free one that was otherwise dead. You could put a new Ecoboost 300hp four in it and turn it into a Sierra Cosworth style monster.
I remember getting a very itchy bidding finger a few years ago when I saw a RS Cosworth Sierra go across the auction block but I didnít bid. If it had of been a RS200 escort I wouldnít have been able to help myself
Iíve always picked out my cars prior and tried not to waver although I bought a 66í Cadillac on a whim at a auction I was at for another car and never regretted it.
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Old Yesterday, 12:48 AM
 
Location: Aurora Denveralis
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EVs will end car culture for future generations. Autonomous driving will essentially eliminate car culture because car ownership will go down for sure.
People still ride horses.
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Old Yesterday, 01:04 AM
 
Location: Round Rock, TX
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in reality the car culture has always been rather cliquish. street roders vs hot roders vs low riders vs racers vs pro street vs pro touring vs rat roders etc.



and even each has their own cliques within the general clique. its always been this way, and always will be. its the result of too many people focusing on a very narrow view of cars. some people are like "you have to have a corvette ro you dont have a car".


fortunately many of us take a step back, and can have with just about any car on the market. you dont have the money for a grand marquis? the crown vic is basically the same car and just as much fun to drive. you cant afford a vette? the camaro/firebird are just as fun as well if you open up your mind to other possibilities.
So then why the clique effect seem to get worse with the internet?
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Old Yesterday, 09:17 AM
 
Location: Sylmar, a part of Los Angeles
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I'm a lifetime hot rodder but I can appreciate the time, money low riders put into their cars
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Old Yesterday, 09:22 AM
 
Location: Lee County, NC
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I love cars. I've been a member of many different make/model specific forums over the years. I've never been to a car show, or cars & coffee and I don't plan to attend one anytime soon.
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Old Yesterday, 10:17 AM
 
Location: Podunk, IA
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I’d imagine with the millions of old Sierras in Europe parts would be pretty easy in the age of the internet. I saw a ( rarest Merkur ever) Scorpio wagon a few years ago....
There were two problems.
When Ford killed Merkur, to appease the dealers that lost much on the brand, they bought back all of the parts.
Then they sent them all back to Europe, effective abandoning the owners.
There was no air shipping back then, so almost anything meant the car was down for weeks. So most of them got junked.
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The XR4Ti would be a great project car if you could pick up a rust free one that was otherwise dead. You could put a new Ecoboost 300hp four in it and turn it into a Sierra Cosworth style monster.
I remember getting a very itchy bidding finger a few years ago when I saw a RS Cosworth Sierra go across the auction block but I didn’t bid. If it had of been a RS200 escort I wouldn’t have been able to help myself
You should've bought it. A Sierra Cosworth that's in the States sold on Bring A Trailer for $55K in 2017.

There are many modded ones out there... the Ford T5 transmission from the Mustang and the Supra differential fits.
They even made V8 Sierras in South Africa.
This is the favorite modded XR4Ti I've seen.

https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q...8&&FORM=VRDGAR
That car is pretty badass. He was only asking $15K for it.

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Old Yesterday, 06:10 PM
 
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So then why the clique effect seem to get worse with the internet?
It's the same trend as with political polarization. Technology enables self-segregation, where persons of narrow shared interest interact amongst themselves, shunning all alternative views. This creates a false impression that their particular tastes are the only legitimate tastes.

But despite the Balkanization of car-culture, the bigger problem, I think, is the general indifference for things automotive, amongst all by a narrow sliver of adherents. The days of youth clamoring for their driver's license, and to soup-up their first car (despite limitations of time, skill, budget or experience), are evidently gone. Those enthusiasts who do remain, ought to band together and to seek strength in numbers, whether their interest is in lifted trucks, sports-cars, motorcycles, drag racing, muscle-car restoration or whatever else. Cars as an element of culture are themselves on the wane; thus all the more reason to lament the Balkanization.
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Old Yesterday, 06:13 PM
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Location: Naples FL
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You should've bought it. A Sierra Cosworth that's in the States sold on Bring A Trailer for $55K in 2017.


https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q...8&&FORM=VRDGAR
That car is pretty badass. He was only asking $15K for it.
Yeah I probably should have ...I think from memory this one went for something like $65k + buyers premium but I was there to buy a W109 300SEL 6.3 and I wanted to keep my powder dry in case it went higher then I thought.
That Green Merkur is indeed a Godzilla .... absolutely a monster
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